I thought it was one person tased, no persons maced.....

The tased individual acted with hostile intent.
What would you expect LEO to do?

The armed folks who showed up after would have been well served to research the situation before taking up arms against their government.
Of course, many of them wait with baited breath and foiled heads hoping for an opportunity to take a shot at someone...anyone. Dangerous fools.

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Just a fraction of the cost to the taxpayers of the last vacation by the O's.

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Sure can't argue with that, but Michelle didn't get her cattle confiscated.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

Personally, I think that foreign vacations by POTUS and family should not be allowed. The cost of protection is much too high.
Any foreign travel should be only to perform the function of the job.
This should be one of the things that POTUS has to sacrifice in order to hold the position.
They can travel to Africa all they want once he is out of office.

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The feds will be back. With lots of handcuffs, appropriate warrant(s), an overwhelming force - well armed of course, and motor coaches to haul off the arrested. Ambulance type services, if necessary, will be first allocated to LEO. The rancher should start reading the mail from the courts.

My prediction is a couple undercover guys, real quiet, just nab him off the street one day.

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I hope they do show back up. Take his cows and sell it for the back grazing fees he owes. Regan no less signed the executive order directing the BLM to collect the fees. As I understand it they barely and usually don't cover the cost of upkeep on the land. The guy is a moocher. No better than the welfare cheats. If he hates the government so much he should quit using the government land and go buy his own. That is his right. This aint the oklahoma land rush. He can't just go plant a flag in public lands and proclaim his own kingdom. If I were the feds I'd just go in with the national gaurd and take the cows out. Then garnish his bank account for what he owes, sell the cows and apply that too. Then send him a check or bill for what is left minus all the court costs and law enforcement expenditures. This guy acting like davey crocket at the alamo is going to cost a small fortune there est of us will have to pay for his little last stand.

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You can make a very good case for selling his cattle, but you can't make a case for just taking them out and murdering them. The Feds murdered two of his best bulls. Nobody gains with that except the Feds get to show just how powerful the Gestapo is.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

If you want to keep and feed them, you should have volunteered your services. He had ample opportunity to make his case heard in court since he had an invite. You do believe in using a court to settle disputes, do you not?

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I said nothing about ANYONE keeping them and feeding them. I talked about selling them to offset his debt. Who gains from just murdering them and leaving them for the buzzards? Only the Gestapo gains because they get to show everyone that they can.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

Cattle cannot be murdered. They can be killed. If you do not know the difference then look it up. Using inflammatory language out of context does not support your case.

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What case? What are you seeing that can be exaggerated to be a case? Wild speculation and innuendo doesn't strike me as a case. Next he will blame Putin for this because somehow, a relative wanted that piece of land and Putin was willing to grant a favor in exchange for something.

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Anyone for "due process"? Yes, he appears to be in default, but is it right for the government, "men with guns" to confiscate what the government claims is due?
Lets just kill everyone the government says is doing something wrong.

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Confiscating the cattle is the end result of 20 years of due process. 2 years ago he prevented a peaceable removal and since then declared a "range war", prompting the more recent removal with overwhelming force. Between then and now, yet another judge made a ruling against him. He has lost every single appeal, because after all, hes using public land for free to graze a far larger herd than his own land can actually support. Once again, due process has shown him to be entirely in the wrong.

Additionally, confiscation of the animals is pretty darn standard. Thats exactly how herd size is enforced. Back in my fish industry days, fish and game officials confiscating illegal sized catch was a monthly occurance. Its one of the only ways to protect wild stock. You grab stuff too small, you are gonna lose it.
Regarding his herd size, in order to protect the local habitat and his land size, hes limited to 150 head. Nothing prevents him from aquiring more land elsewhere and expanding his herd legally, but no, raising a far larger herd on public land is somehow his right, even though he was paying a fee 20 years ago and decided to stop.

The issues here are very clear and very simple.

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