Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3316278)

Pretty sure they haven't killed anyone.... you are overstating with use of the word 'willingness'
They even let off the taser before the guy lost control of his bowels...
That's showing some consideration right there....


If they really wanted to kill these people to settle this issue, there would be dead people.
Pulling back to let the situation calm down actually shows that someone somewhere has a brain.
Next time, they will take Cliven nice and quiet down at the local breakfast joint.

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3316279)

I would say that it's even dumber to offer up physical violence to a larger and better equipped force...;)

Guessing that the ranchers never found a use for Sun Tzu...

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3316279)

Guessing that the ranchers never found a use for Sun Tzu...

Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS (Post 3316282)

The feds will be back. With lots of handcuffs, appropriate warrant(s), an overwhelming force - well armed of course, and motor coaches to haul off the arrested. Ambulance type services, if necessary, will be first allocated to LEO. The rancher should start reading the mail from the courts.

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3316267)

Are the growers armed, defiant and confrontational?

I don't recall anything happening to Cliven's daughter....

Nevada rancher's son tasered by federal agents in fight over right to graze land | Mail Online
I do like the part of the video where the kid (nephew or some such) claims to have been hit by multiple vehicles, including a dump truck.....
Kind of hard to take anything these people say seriously.

What we want to know is would you be defending the pot growers?;)

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3316243)

If all of what you state turns out to be true, you are making a good case and I could buy into most of what you say, saving for the welfare of the cows. There are two sides to everything though. I would have to have the time to hear the case by both sides. That, of course, is called a trial.

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3316258)

If the fed shoots a bunch of civilians over grazing rights then the feds will have proven the ranchers argument with the lives of the ranchers.

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3316261)

Another thought.... The Feds Sunday showed their willingness to kill Americans. They refuse, however, to use such measures on the border to try to control illegal immigration and drug running. What's wrong with this picture?

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3316269)

I'm not talking about the ranchers. I'm talking about the unarmed family members that were pushed down and maced.

Originally Posted by Air&Road (Post 3316283)

I'm not sure that the Feds would not have fired if, thanks to the second Ammendment, there weren't armed citizens ready to return fire. We will never know, thank goodness.

Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 3316312)

Of course he would not. They are breaking the law .....and doing thing he disagrees with

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 3316279)

I would say that it's even dumber to offer up physical violence to a larger and better equipped force...;)

Guessing that the ranchers never found a use for Sun Tzu...

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3316319)

So following that, if a cop stops me for say spitting on the sidewalk, I choose to pull a gun to tell him to back off and he draws faster and drills me, I am being shot over spitting on the sidewalk?

Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3316320)

I've seen this movie before. It tries to link item A with the price of tea in China to obfuscate the issue.