Back on topic . . . it should be noted that fascist, gestapo, thugs, federales were granted "summary judgment" on their request for a permanent injunction against Mr. Bundy. It's a pretty important distinction. Summary judgment is one of the hardest motions to bring and prevail on in court since the moving party has the burden of showing that it is entitled to the judgment "as a matter of law" and that there are no facts in controversy that might provide even a modest issue to be decided at trial. It's the equivalent of having one's case or defense being "thrown out" because there was no legal or factual support for the position taken.

The summary judgment order could have been appealed and a stay put in place, but apparently that was not done.

in 2013, it was widely reported that Federal funds for a Nevada-based desert tortoise conservation center are running dry and wildlife officials plan to close the facility and euthanize hundreds of tortoises that were once classified as “endangered” and are currently considered “threatened.”

The desert tortoise can be found in the southwestern United States, but its population has been dwindling. In some areas, the tortoise population has decreased by 90 percent since the 1980s, and in the Mojave desert the population is considered “threatened.” It is illegal to touch, harm or harass these animals, and the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center has tried to increase their population ever since they were added to the endangered species list in 1990.

Still, only 100,000 desert tortoises are estimated to remain in the wild.

But federal funds are running dry at the Las Vegas Valley facility, and rather than release the animals, officials plan to euthanize about half of the 1,400 tortoises. The 220-acre facility will shut its doors in 2014, and the tortoises deemed feeble to survive in the wild will be set free. Many of the tortoises at the center were formerly kept as pets and are unable to survive in the desert.

“It’s the lesser of two evils, but it’s still evil,” US Fish and Wildlife Service desert tortoise recovery coordinator Roy Averill-Murray told the Associated Press.

The facility usually takes in diseased or injured tortoises and nurtures them back to health, but new arrivals will most likely be put to sleep.

The Bureau of Land Management currently funds the conservation and research center with fees inflicted on those who disturb tortoise habitats. During the housing boom in the early 2000s, the conservation center had plenty of cash, since developers were frequently fined for disturbing such habitats. But since the recession, the BLM has struggled to meet its annual $1 million budget.

Over the past 11 months, the BLM has only accumulated $290,000 in federal mitigation fees that developers are forced to pay.


I wonder if they taste like chicken. Tortoise B-B-Q anyone ?

Dogs eat them when they can open up the shell enough to get to the meat.

I guess a tortoise cannot really outrun anything --except another tortoise perhaps, -- so it's either clam-up or be eaten-up ...lol

Link please. (I tried to find what you're talking about and couldn't.)

Think soup.

I once ate turtle soup (snaping turtle) and it was pretty good.



As for links, there's only a a few dozen or so ...

https://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-planned-killing-of-desert-tortoises

Federal Government Plans To Kill Hundreds Of Desert Tortoises To Save $1 Million A Year | JONATHAN TURLEY

http://rt.com/usa/desert-tortoises-euthanize-nevada-024/

Government plans to euthanize hundreds of desert tortoises after budget cuts to refuge | The Raw Story - Linkis.com

kingsnake blog Kingsnake.com Blog - BLM to kill hundreds of desert tortoises as its conservation center runs out of money

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There are quite a few links since the passage has been cited on many websites. Just cut and paste a paragraph into Google and you'll see the number of results.

This could be the source, which is dated August 2013

http://rt.com/usa/desert-tortoises-euthanize-nevada-024/

Ask Amy and Jeannie how it feels to take out a desert tortoise ...

Amy Lueders, State Director, Nevada Bureau of Land Management
Jeannie Stafford, U.S. Fish and Wildlife

It isn't state land Dudesky. Did you read the quote I copied from the Nevada constitution?

How exactly do you figure it's state land? I'll post the copy again. I'd prefer a reasoned answer. Take your time....

Third. That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare, that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that lands belonging to citizens of the United States, residing without the said state, shall never be taxed higher than the land belonging to the residents thereof; and that no taxes shall be imposed by said state on lands or property therein belonging to, or which may hereafter be purchased by, the United States, unless otherwise provided by the congress of the United States." Ordinance, Nevada Constitution - Ballotpedia

I don't think anybody has said that but you.

Clearly there's sufficient evidence to suggest he is breaking the law.

I don't know about overgrazing, that's subject of contention in the academic community. I have no doubt dueling experts with suitcases of credentials could argue for decades.

It is also clear that sometimes breaking the law is justified -- you and I have argued that point vs Larry on more than one thread.

What determines whether lawbreaking is justified?

History.

Or a well-regulated militia.

I sure am!

Sometimes we argue in favor of civil disobedience and sometimes against. I have yet to see any consistency from anybody on this forum.

Have you?

Hahaha!!

Right of conquest preempts all other claims.

You have to equate it as so? Looks like accurate reporting to me.

Maybe they are reporting in a fair and balanced way and not ending comment on the issue like so many on the progressive side do. :D