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Old 04-26-2014, 01:12 AM
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Me too. In that case the underdogs were the little girls that creep was "instructing".

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Old 04-26-2014, 01:18 AM
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In principle I always take the side of the underdog.
Kinda explains why there are frivolous lawsuits that make sense to nobody.

On a side note, glad you are not making bets on my behalf. They do say that the race is not always to the strongest or swiftest but that is the way to bet.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:11 AM
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Kinda explains why there are frivolous lawsuits that make sense to nobody.

On a side note, glad you are not making bets on my behalf. They do say that the race is not always to the strongest or swiftest but that is the way to bet.
They make sense to the plaintiff and the lawyer.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:16 AM
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the right to be left alone and enjoy peace and happiness. They are like the NYC mafia going to restaurant and dry cleaner owners and offering them a deal they cannot refuse; they want to be paid for providing 'protection'.

Can you say 'protection racket'? I knew you could......

Wayyy out in right field. Bundy had access to 900 sq. miles for grazing, free of charge. Who owns a ranch that size outright?

Oh poor me, if only my landlord and the IRS would leave me alone and not expect me to give them money. Waaaaaaaaa--aaa-aaaaa-aaaaa-aaaa
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:19 AM
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Successfully defusing a situation that they created is excellent. Much better than Reno's modus operandi. Glad they learned a lesson.

But it really does beg the question of whether the was themselves are just.
"the was themselves?"

Bundy created this situation. He had plenty of chances to do the right thing over the years. F 'im.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:21 AM
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This. the feds didn't avoid ANYTHING. Since burning 13 children to a crisp at WACO and shooting a 14 year old boy in the back at Ruby Ridge, they have suddenly become aware that violence may not be their best option.

Apparently those militiamen go for violence as the first option.

Koresh and Weaver brought the situation upon themselves. Megalomaniacal, self important fools.
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:48 AM
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I have known a lot of folks like Bundy. There is nothing new is what he is saying. I have been hearing this for over fifty years from people living in the west. I always thought it was odd to hear people wail on about not believing in the US Government while at the same time happily cashing their soil bank checks.

What is interesting to me is that Bundy has said nothing that Rush Limbaugh has not said many times in the past and Republicans think Rush is the smartest human that ever lived. If you ever want to hear a Conservative defend someone then just say something critical about Rush and then stand back.

So Rush says the same thing Bundy says and he is a true hero, while Bundy says the same thing Rush says and Conservatives can't scramble away fast enough.

Is that what Conservatives call 'sticking to their principals'?
I find your response so very typical of Progressive "thinking". You preach tolerance, but fail to display it, or excuse yourself when you attack it. You also make a very serious charge of racism against ALL who see the matter different than you.
You would not tolerate anyone saying anything like " All gays think this....", or " All blacks are like this...."-- and yet you see no problem with lumping all Conservatives together. ( why are you so inconsistent?)
Progressives hate blacks who fail to think exactly as Progressives think blacks should think---look at the hatred displayed against Justice Thomas. Because he fails to display the "black" attitude, he is assailed by Progressives. You guys call Conservatives hypocrites, and some are--but by no means do Conservatives have a monopoly on that trait.
You want to use race as the wedge to divide people and force your agenda on them. Instead of unifying the people; you divide.
I would gladly support Dr. Ben Carson in any political aspirations he might have. I retain the right to oppose our current President--I also oppose white Progressives, and all for the same reason--Progressivism is the death of a FREE culture.
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Here's a very interesting history of the political roots of Bundy's views.

Radical racist context missed in rancher hype | MSNBC
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I wonder if Cliven is a Clippers fan . . .

and then, there's this . . .

Sean Hannity, The Arby's of News Loves Jon

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Here's a very interesting history of the political roots of Bundy's views.

Radical racist context missed in rancher hype | MSNBC
Forget the government's military reaction against a citizen--LOOK Over here---it a Red Herring. Look..look

Does his racism, or lack thereof have any bearing on the government's action? Its OK to use excessive force against a racists, right?


and the German Middle class overlooked the early attacks on the Jews--even educated Jews thought they had nothing to fear.
Fascism is fascism, no matter how it may be disguised.
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His racism has nothing to do with his squatting. It just makes him more unlikable.
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His racism has nothing to do with his squatting. It just makes him more unlikable.
So might his clipping his toenails while dinner is being served but likable or not, it is not germane to the issue at hand. Now if someone were to try make this a hate crime where he hates black people and because some people in government are black and therefore he refuses to pay, it would be silly but somewhat more germane.
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Forget the government's military reaction against a citizen--LOOK Over here---it a Red Herring. Look..look

Does his racism, or lack thereof have any bearing on the government's action? Its OK to use excessive force against a racists, right?


and the German Middle class overlooked the early attacks on the Jews--even educated Jews thought they had nothing to fear.
Fascism is fascism, no matter how it may be disguised.
Speaking of Red Herrings, what was that he was talking about a range war?
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Forget the government's military reaction against a citizen--LOOK Over here---it a Red Herring. Look..look

Does his racism, or lack thereof have any bearing on the government's action? Its OK to use excessive force against a racists, right?


and the German Middle class overlooked the early attacks on the Jews--even educated Jews thought they had nothing to fear.
Fascism is fascism, no matter how it may be disguised.
Did you even listen to the history?
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His racism has nothing to do with his squatting. It just makes him more unlikable.
If you listen to that history, it actually does.

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