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Botnst 05-05-2014 08:06 AM

Sure, I'll give Caesar his due. But I think he charges too much taxes and targets minority vassal states and I don't think that is fair so I ain't paying his onerous fees above what is just.

cmac2012 05-05-2014 03:12 PM

I, for one, buyth not this nonsense about some need for viaducts in our state. Needlessly complex and expensive and I will not pay for it.

Idle 05-05-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3325023)
Sure, I'll give Caesar his due. But I think he charges too much taxes and targets minority vassal states and I don't think that is fair so I ain't paying his onerous fees above what is just.

The Founding Fathers thought the same way. That's why we are allowed to vote on who leads the country and makes those decisions.

Idle 05-05-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3324739)
Does anyone who identifies himself as a liberal or conservative really have a trust in the other side?

It depends on the situation. I know a lot of Conservatives. Some are very hard core and I trust them to do what they are experts in. I have never been let down.

Where I don't trust them is where they start butting their nose into my business and telling me how to run things and how I should live my life. The US Constitution is nothing more than a distraction to these people in that they want what they want and they do not give a fig if anyone agrees with them. There are not two sides to every question; there is their side and that is it. Compromise is considered weakness and not a means to a solution for a problem.

When they start meddling in subjects they clearly have no knowledge of then no, I do not trust them. Anyone can step outside of their field of knowledge but Conservatives do it on a regular basis and then cannot understand why anyone would not think their opinions are not facts.

Jim B. 05-05-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 3325023)
Sure, I'll give Caesar his due. But I think he charges too much taxes and targets minority vassal states and I don't think that is fair so I ain't paying his onerous fees above what is just.

Shut up, peasant, slave. :P

PAY !!!

Jim B. 05-05-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3325231)
It depends on the situation. I know a lot of Conservatives. Some are very hard core and I trust them to do what they are experts in. I have never been let down.

Where I don't trust them is where they start butting their nose into my business and telling me how to run things and how I should live my life. The US Constitution is nothing more than a distraction to these people in that they want what they want and they do not give a fig if anyone agrees with them. There are not two sides to every question; there is their side and that is it. Compromise is considered weakness and not a means to a solution for a problem.

When they start meddling in subjects they clearly have no knowledge of then no, I do not trust them. Anyone can step outside of their field of knowledge but Conservatives do it on a regular basis and then cannot understand why anyone would not think their opinions are not facts.


^^^^^ Sarah Palin does not :heart: this.

aklim 05-05-2014 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3325231)
It depends on the situation. I know a lot of Conservatives. Some are very hard core and I trust them to do what they are experts in. I have never been let down.

Where I don't trust them is where they start butting their nose into my business and telling me how to run things and how I should live my life. The US Constitution is nothing more than a distraction to these people in that they want what they want and they do not give a fig if anyone agrees with them. There are not two sides to every question; there is their side and that is it. Compromise is considered weakness and not a means to a solution for a problem.

When they start meddling in subjects they clearly have no knowledge of then no, I do not trust them. Anyone can step outside of their field of knowledge but Conservatives do it on a regular basis and then cannot understand why anyone would not think their opinions are not facts.

I understand what you are saying. What I don't agree with is the part where liberals ALSO meddle in our business. I see both parties being in the pandering business. When you pander, you will interfere with personal business. If only liberals can stick to simply being a referee in the game, I'd feel a lot better. In my book, pandering is pandering. I don't care which group, what cause or what justification you give. Meddling is still meddling.

Botnst 05-05-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle (Post 3325225)
The Founding Fathers thought the same way. That's why we are allowed to vote on who leads the country and makes those decisions.

You don't get to vote on who leads the country unless you are an Elector.

Botnst 05-05-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 3325332)
I understand what you are saying. What I don't agree with is the part where liberals ALSO meddle in our business. I see both parties being in the pandering business. When you pander, you will interfere with personal business. If only liberals can stick to simply being a referee in the game, I'd feel a lot better. In my book, pandering is pandering. I don't care which group, what cause or what justification you give. Meddling is still meddling.

Amen to that, Parson.

engatwork 05-05-2014 08:04 PM

I feel like I am getting some taxation without representation sometimes:eek::rolleyes:.

MTI 02-03-2015 03:51 PM

Back in the news: Bundy son is likely off to jail for failing drug test during probation.

Son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy arrested in Utah | Reuters

Meanwhile, Cliven is still grazing cattle on the disputed land.

panZZer 02-03-2015 04:10 PM

OH Boy Oh Boy Oh Boy, the same azz whole FBI sniper was at the same ruby and Waco events,

Oh Boy more snipers ~ ~ ~ they are sUCH hEROS

elchivito 02-03-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 3438016)
Back in the news: Bundy son is likely off to jail for failing drug test during probation.

Son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy arrested in Utah | Reuters

Meanwhile, Cliven is still grazing cattle on the disputed land.

Both sons are scofflaws. They'll end up in prison about the time old Cliven drops dead from too many biscuits and the issue will resolve.

panZZer 02-03-2015 04:44 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Lets all say a prayer for the welfare rancher, he has been so mistreated:rolleyes:

engatwork 02-03-2015 05:48 PM

Maybe if he would follow Mrs. O's dietary guidelines he would be healthier longer:rolleyes:.


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