Forgetting (if possible) this current event….

Under what circumstances would one argue that taking-up arms against the government (any government) is a reasonable course?

Well, maybe if a baker refused to make a cake...
Wait, I know, when the IRS takes too long to allow tax-free status...
Both of those ought to merit armed uprising.

I would like to say that there has never been a good enough reason to take up arms against our government.
For one thing, you'll lose every time.
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It happened in 1776 and 1861. Bit of a dust-up both times.

The way we know which is justified is by who writes the history.

We talking about a legitimate government that was legally elected or a government put in place by illegal means?

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We'll I guess you'll have to evaluate whether or not our elections were legitimate or not.

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Annoy a Liberal, Read the Constitution

Challenge it in court if you disagree. Or maybe you see a better way.

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You mind showing me where I have implied that it should NOT be settled in court?

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Not broken the law? Then why would a US Federal Court have issued an order to cease and desist the grazing? I guess following the court's order was "optional?"

Part of the Order granting permanent injunction against Mr. Bundy:

Nor is there a legitimate dispute that Bundy has grazed his cattle on the New Trespass Lands without federal authorization. The United States has submitted Bundy’s deposition excerpts indicating that Bundy has grazed livestock on the New Trespass Lands.

Bundy principally opposes the United States’ motion for summary judgment on the ground that this court lacks jurisdiction because the United States does not own the public lands in question. As this court previously ruled in United States v. Bundy, Case No. CV-S-98-531-JBR (RJJ) (D. Nev. Nov. 4, 1998), “the public lands in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States. CV-S-98-531 at 8 (citing United States v. Gardner, 107 F.3d 1314, 1318 (9th Cir. 1997))

Bundy [also contends] the observed cattle bearing his brand may not in fact be his own.

Finally, the public interest is served by the enforcement of Congress’ mandate for management of the public rangelands, and by having federal laws and regulations applied to all citizens equally.

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The cattle seized were branded with Mr. Bundy's brand.

With a gang of wanna be sharpshooters, without any semblance of a command and control system





I think the BLM deserves thanks for not putting lives at any further risk from "cowboys."

please elucidate further from your experienced military perspective.

And, I imagine the Redcoats made similar comments regarding the Patriots as they were getting thier asses shot off...

I'm a fan of 2nd Amendment rights, however I believe it says "a well regulated militia" not just well armed. The federal authorities actions to DE-escalate a growing volatile situation, where random people were showing up and taking shooting positions on public highway overpasses, was admirable. Are you factually suggesting that the cross state "militia" members from Montana, Idaho, Arizona and other parts were coordinated enough so that if a shot rang out there would be someone to say "hold your fire" and have it so? Do go on . . .

My militia is well-regulated. Sorry about yours.

don't know enough about the stucture. however, in that situation, if a shot rang out, both sides would have opened fire almost immediately because of the tension.

I'd be celebrating of those militiamen got wiped out. Wouldn't bother me in the least. Just a bunch of outlaws siding with another outlaw.

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All the more reason to send Bubba 12-Pack back where he came from....

As for both sides, I would like to think that the SPECOP guys, as you described them, might have enough training to hold fire until the command is given.
Maybe you have a different opinion of their training.

Unless... by both sides, you mean both sides of the militias elaborate 'pincher' formation. (pronounced payne-cher)....

BTW... What is the color of the boathouse at Hereford?...

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