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Old 04-16-2014, 01:37 PM
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It is amazing that certain left wing leaning folks are making Bundy out to be some sort of crook and/or criminal, yet the same left wing folks want to march in the streets with the hope and change gimmick and wealth redistribution mantra. At least Bundy works, so I am guessing the left wing folks just want the free stuff and redistribution of wealth only if you just hang out. It don't figure
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:46 PM
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It is amazing that certain left wing leaning folks are making Bundy out to be some sort of crook and/or criminal, yet the same left wing folks want to march in the streets with the hope and change gimmick and wealth redistribution mantra. At least Bundy works, so I am guessing the left wing folks just want the free stuff and redistribution of wealth only if you just hang out. It don't figure
Can't have hard-working, independent white people conducting civil disobedience. It just ain't right.
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Old 04-16-2014, 02:19 PM
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Can't have hard-working, independent white people conducting civil disobedience. It just ain't right.
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One protester, a former Arizona sheriff named Richard Mack, told Fox News about the militia's plans if violence broke out in Bunkerville. “We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they are going to start shooting, it’s going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers.”

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It is amazing that certain left wing leaning folks are making Bundy out to be some sort of crook and/or criminal, yet the same left wing folks want to march in the streets with the hope and change gimmick and wealth redistribution mantra. At least Bundy works, so I am guessing the left wing folks just want the free stuff and redistribution of wealth only if you just hang out. It don't figure
ooh, we may have a revelation or epiphany goin' here . . .

"Working" is a qualifier for disregarding a court's order?

Regardless, some view the "rebel" as a hero and champion, but is this guy Nelson Mandela?
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ooh, we may have a revelation or epiphany goin' here . . .

"Working" is a qualifier for disregarding a court's order?

Regardless, some view the "rebel" as a hero and champion, but is this guy Nelson Mandela?
How many people has this guy killed as compared to Mandela?
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How many people has this guy killed as compared to Mandela?
Directly, or indirectly?

Come to think of it, how many have we all killed, indirectly?
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:13 PM
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Directly, or indirectly?

Come to think of it, how many have we all killed, indirectly?
I wouldn't know how to compute something like that.

So I would leave it as unknowable.

If I remember correctly Mr Mandela was jailed for some sort of violence. His choice, he could have simply obeyed the laws.

But wait, he believed the law was unfair and eventually chose a violent path to change.

The only difference among civil disobedience lawbreakers is how history views them in the future and our personal beliefs at the present. I see no objective way to determine when civil disobedience is the moral path. Do you?
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I wouldn't know how to compute something like that.

So I would leave it as unknowable.

If I remember correctly Mr Mandela was jailed for some sort of violence. His choice, he could have simply obeyed the laws.

But wait, he believed the law was unfair and eventually chose a violent path to change.

The only difference among civil disobedience lawbreakers is how history views them in the future and our personal beliefs at the present. I see no objective way to determine when civil disobedience is the moral path. Do you?
The decision of what was moral, as we all know, is subjective and will be the topic of conversation of other generations.
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The only difference among civil disobedience lawbreakers is how history views them in the future and our personal beliefs at the present. I see no objective way to determine when civil disobedience is the moral path. Do you?
There is no way to tell when it is the correct path, but I believe that there are ways to tell when it isn't.
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There is no way to tell when it is the correct path, but I believe that there are ways to tell when it isn't.
Give me a clue. I think that is a mystery, too.
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Directly, or indirectly?

Come to think of it, how many have we all killed, indirectly?
I stopped following the number of unborn babies that have been murdered, but the number is in the millions.
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"Working" is a qualifier for disregarding a court's order?

Regardless, some view the "rebel" as a hero and champion, but is this guy Nelson Mandela?
Okay, what's sharptons excuse then?
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Okay, what's sharptons excuse then?
Sharpton? What has he got to do with this case? Sharpton is another issue. Why don't you bring Rhodney King into the picture?
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Sharpton? What has he got to do with this case? Sharpton is another issue. Why don't you bring Rhodney King into the picture?
It is relevant when the reason given for the armed Feds showing up is the amount he owes. It is obvious that that is a lie. If the amount of money owed is what prompted the armed respone than the failure to treat Sharpton must be racism--- lack of equal treatment under the law.
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It is relevant when the reason given for the armed Feds showing up is the amount he owes. It is obvious that that is a lie. If the amount of money owed is what prompted the armed respone than the failure to treat Sharpton must be racism--- lack of equal treatment under the law.
Before you play the race card, you should consider that the two deadbeats owe money to different agencies....
And... last time I checked, the pencil-necks at the IRS were a little busy with other issues.
They don't even get guns do they?
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