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elchivito · #46 06-27-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

So you are saying that "I didn't get my way" and I happen to be a minority does not equal racism? So I cannot say the cop that didn't let me off the hook who said "I cannot give you only a warning ticket." isn't a racist? That means I have to pay the fine? What a crock of poop.

What strange wording. "...I cannot say the cop...isn't a racist?" Your point is lost, at least on me.

Idle · #47 06-27-2014, 01:46 PM

Jimmy Stewart, the Actor, was once turned away from the The Ritz Hotel in Paris. Why? Because the Hotel had a strict policy of not renting rooms to anyone in show business.

So Stewart left, turned around, went back in requested a room for Gen. Jimmy Stewart, USAF.

The General got the room.

So maybe you weren't presenting yourself correctly.

INSIDIOUS · #48 06-27-2014, 02:09 PM

If the realtor was a buyer's agent they would need you to contract with them before they would waste their time showing you anything.

spdrun · #49 06-27-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by INSIDIOUS

If the realtor was a buyer's agent they would need you to contract with them before they would waste their time showing you anything.

Nope. I had a buyer's agent whom I hired without signing an exclusive. A contract (at least a written one) isn't required.

cmbdiesel · #50 06-27-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

what is this nonsense?

you show up suddenly when an agent is showing a pair of clients the property, and expect to be let in?
was it an open house or not? sure doesnt sound like it. you want to get in, you schedule an appointment like every other person, or wait till an open house. dont jump on someone elses showing.

if it wasnt an open house, no way in hell are they letting some random guy in with the people who had scheduled the showing.

racism? ridiculous.
i wouldnt have let you in either. no f-in way am i randomly showing something to a guy off the street like that.

Bingo!

Doesn't matter if you are red, white, yellow or green.
Male, female both or neither.
Make an appointment if you want to see the property, and certainly don't expect to jump on someone else's showing.
If my real estate agent allowed someone else to piggy-back my showing, it would be the last time they showed me anything, as I would fire them promptly.

Seems like you are clutching at straws to cover up your lack of etiquette.

P.C. · #51 06-27-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Bingo!

Doesn't matter if you are red, white, yellow or green.
Male, female both or neither.
Make an appointment if you want to see the property, and certainly don't expect to jump on someone else's showing.
If my real estate agent allowed someone else to piggy-back my showing, it would be the last time they showed me anything, as I would fire them promptly.

Seems like you are clutching at straws to cover up your lack of etiquette.

Which is S.O.P. with this particular O.P.

hill · #52 06-27-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel
Bingo!

Doesn't matter if you are red, white, yellow or green.
Male, female both or neither.
Make an appointment if you want to see the property, and certainly don't expect to jump on someone else's showing.
If my real estate agent allowed someone else to piggy-back my showing, it would be the last time they showed me anything, as I would fire them promptly.

Seems like you are clutching at straws to cover up your lack of etiquette.

Last I checked the Civil Rights Act people with out etiquette are not a proteted class.

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Originally Posted by P.C.

Which is S.O.P. with this particular O.P.

halman2228 · #53 06-27-2014, 04:19 PM

I rarely, if ever post in OD, but having been a real estate agent in a previous life, I thought I'd jump in...

Sorry Joe, you put that agent in a precarious situation just from a security standpoint. He or she:

- was the responsible party in opening up a privately owned property
- didn't know you from Adam
- would not/could not keep tabs on the whereabouts in the property of all the parties had he/she let you in

As noted by others above, property viewings are by appointment (except during an Open House). You were crashing the party, so to speak, on a scheduled business meeting of others.

I suspect you caused some alarm in the showing agent and that agent reacted clumsily because of that consternation (fear).

Had it been me, I would have done the same (refused your immediate entry) although I would have asked you to contact me for your own showing and given you my card (a prospect is a prospect).

In a nutshell, you barged in on a private business activity in a manner that caused security concerns at the least if not outright disbelief and incredulity over your actions in so doing. The proper thing for you to do would have been to call for a showing appointment of your own or at worst, briefly interrupt their private business to ask that showing agent for his/her card and express interest in the property for a later showing (still a boorish action - the first option is the correct way to have conducted yourself).

Regards to all,
Kevin

aklim · #54 06-27-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

For the third or fourth time let me repeat; I was told that; "I'm not comfortable in showing you the property."

The agent's words, not mine.

So it means "Go fawk yourself". Where is the race issue there? Had it been said "I don't show property to (insert race here), you have a point. What you have is the door being slammed in your face, not liking it and trying to call it racism.

aklim · #55 06-27-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spdrun

And he should oblige her by bringing his own broker and shafting her out of 50% of her commission. Niceness begets niceness, she had her chance.

You show up out of the blue without an appointment and you expect people who are busy to be nice? You expect me to be nice to you simply because you come cold calling on me when I am in the middle of something? I wouldn't.

aklim · #56 06-27-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

I doubt that he sold enough hats on this forum to even afford the DP...

DP? Exactly what do you mean by that? Double Penetration?

aklim · #57 06-27-2014, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Can't Know

If it's not an open house situation, as others have noted, it's by appointment only. Perhaps nothing more than a poor choice of phrase by the agent, who might instead have said, "I'm sorry, showings are by appointment only, please contact your agent" or something like that.

I also keep thinking of the "Seinfeld" episode focusing on nuance.

What did the person emphasize?

Did he say, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

Or was it, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

Or perhaps, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

If the second, I can see how one might hear racism. Otherwise, I think it's a fair chance it was just a poorly-chosen phrase under the circumstances.

How so? It could mean "I'm not comfortable with YOU, the moron and not necessarily YOU, the black, white, yellow, pink or whatever your skin color is.

Skid Row Joe · #58 06-27-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Can't Know

If it's not an open house situation, as others have noted, it's by appointment only. Perhaps nothing more than a poor choice of phrase by the agent, who might instead have said, "I'm sorry, showings are by appointment only, please contact your agent" or something like that.

I also keep thinking of the "Seinfeld" episode focusing on nuance.

What did the person emphasize?

Did he say, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

Or was it, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

Or perhaps, "I'm not comfortable showing you the property?"

If the second, I can see how one might hear racism. Otherwise, I think it's a fair chance it was just a poorly-chosen phrase under the circumstances.

You got the quote correctly.

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

I'd go with the fact that the agent had clients who made an appointment and was uncomfortable showing the place to a walk up. How would it have gone if the clients made an offer on the spot and now you're there maybe with a counter...plus her obligation to the original clients who are there.

That is an uncomfortable situ....

I can't confirm any theory at this time. I'm only certain of what I witnessed and heard said by the other shoppers and the agent in this instance.

I have consulted counsel and have been referred to another firm, as well as considering some other options I hadn't considered.

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Originally Posted by spdrun

If it turned into an impromptu auction, she'd get a higher commission

I don't think the agent was aware of anything positive for anyone at the time the quoted phrase was blurted out after laying eyes on me.

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Or possibly lose both client and the walk up.

Perhaps. The agent created an untenable situation out of the blue. Very unfortunate to have put the other shoppers as well as myself through - they dispersed the property very soon after the agent basically shut the door on me.

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Originally Posted by halman2228

I rarely, if ever post in OD, but having been a real estate agent in a previous life, I thought I'd jump in...

Sorry Joe, you put that agent in a precarious situation just from a security standpoint. He or she:

- was the responsible party in opening up a privately owned property
- didn't know you from Adam
- would not/could not keep tabs on the whereabouts in the property of all the parties had he/she let you in

As noted by others above, property viewings are by appointment (except during an Open House). You were crashing the party, so to speak, on a scheduled business meeting of others.

I suspect you caused some alarm in the showing agent and that agent reacted clumsily because of that consternation (fear).

Had it been me, I would have done the same (refused your immediate entry) although I would have asked you to contact me for your own showing and given you my card (a prospect is a prospect).

In a nutshell, you barged in on a private business activity in a manner that caused security concerns at the least if not outright disbelief and incredulity over your actions in so doing. The proper thing for you to do would have been to call for a showing appointment of your own or at worst, briefly interrupt their private business to ask that showing agent for his/her card and express interest in the property for a later showing (still a boorish action - the first option is the correct way to have conducted yourself).

Regards to all,
Kevin

Totally off-base, RE: security. Again, for the benefit of anyone not there, this (security) was not a concern to any party - including myself. I'm about as disarming an individual as one could find in a first meeting, public or business place. -Of which this was a commercial enterprise location that I was at.
Thanks.....

P.C. · #59 06-27-2014, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Totally off-base, RE: security. Again, for the benefit of anyone not there, this (security) was not a concern to any party - including myself. I'm about as disarming an individual as one could find in a first meeting, public or business place. -Of which this was a commercial enterprise location that I was at.
Thanks.....

I heard that Ted Bundy could be quite charming at times...

spdrun · #60 06-27-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

I heard that Ted Bundy could be quite charming at times...

If you're that worried about security, perhaps you shouldn't be a broker or should consider carrying a pistol. Keep in mind that Google Voice and throwaway cell phones are ubiquitous right now -- any crazy can make an appointment to see a property over the phone.