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(2) The US still has about 100 B-52 bombers in service and will likely retain them for another 10-15 years. (3) Rumor has it that the plane was being escorted out of the war zone by Ukrainian fighters. Fighter escort could have make it a target in the SAM operators' eyes: https://twitter.com/blamedandshamed/status/489828713291591680 |
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I think they want to give Snowden the first crack . . .
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Somewhat strange the B52s are still in service. I doubt even with their massive amount of evasion technology they could avoid the more sophisticated air defense systems of today.
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Malaysia Airline officials have released a statement to the grieving families at the Kuala Lampur airport:
" We have lost communications with Flight MH17 and believe it is lost in the Caspian Sea and request that Vietnam and China and any other available resources undertake extensive search efforts there. Meanwhile unconfirmed analysis of radar data indicates it may have veered off course around at various altitudes crossing Azerbiajon and Georgia last assumed heading wandering on autopilot over the black sea. We further request that everyone from the middle east, Africa, Australia and Europe search the Mediterranean sea and the Indian ocean at this time just in case. Our deepest sympathies go out to the families as we investigate the pilots,crew and passengers." I apologize, couldn't resist. |
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I could easily see a Spanish controller in Kiev. A Spanish firm could have been contracted to upgrade Ukrainian ATC systems and he was there to train the local controllers on new systems, or any number of reasons.
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Crashes over Ukrainian Airspace, Plane May have been Shot Down by Russian Antiaircraft Missile | Gospelherald.com Quote:
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Even after Flight 370, the news outlets sure weren't afraid to start with the speculation.
@grasswire is an interesting follow on Twitter if anyone is on it.
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What is the likelihood of a portable SAM hitting an airliner at 30K ft. altitude? I really don't know....
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Zero. This wasn't a portable SAM. This was a truck launched or fixed SAM site. More like our old Nike system than a Stinger missile.
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