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Old 04-05-2005, 07:37 PM
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Should I just replace the drag link or tie rods as well.

I have been informed that I need to replace the center link or, as I have deduced, the drag link by a state inspection station.

Is this link adjustable and will I need an alignment after it's replacement?

Is it a good idea to do more than just the drag link?

Any tips appreciated.
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:26 PM
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drag link is not adjustable. You could replace it w/o and alignment but I wouldn't recommend it. Replacing the link is easier if you are doing the tie rods as well. Hard to explain, but if you are using a pickle fork the stud from tie rod is in the way.

I just started a thread that shows how to do the tie rods and ball joints.

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Old 04-05-2005, 11:06 PM
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I saw your thread Robert, it is a great resource.

I am a little short on time and cash at the moment... and was hoping I might be able to shortcut around the full job a little.

Does compression of the springs keep the control arms in place so the tie rods can be inserted?

I assume this would be necessary if I were to attempt the drag link alone.

I thought I saw Larry Bible saying you could just knock the drag link out with a 3oz hammer... but I'm so clueless when it comes to this stuff I'm just looking for a little more guidance.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/search.php?searchid=262466
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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I have replaced just the drag link. No alignment necessary. An easy DIY.

A pickle fork and a BFH is apparently all you need. I used a lever like remover, no pounding, just tighten the bolt, and the joint pops free.

If it's working (tie rods), leave it alone. These parts last a lot longer than you might think.

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Old 04-06-2005, 12:05 PM
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The tool I used is the one in the lower center. There is not much overhead room to use the upper right and upper center type tool.

http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3738

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Old 04-06-2005, 12:56 PM
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I have replaced just the drag link. No alignment necessary. An easy DIY.

A pickle fork and a BFH is apparently all you need. I used a lever like remover, no pounding, just tighten the bolt, and the joint pops free.
Thanks, thats just what I was looking for.
Last question... Front wheels on and on ramps for this job? (I'm just a little clueless in this area)
TIA
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Old 04-06-2005, 01:27 PM
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There is no pressure on the drag link while installed. However. You must be able to safely get to it. So YES put the car on jack stands and that way you will be safe. Or ramps. but I personally prefer jack stands. Ramps seem so flimsy and unsafe.
You can borrow the pickle fork form Autozone etc. They have tool loaner programs.
You will destroy the ball joint rubber boots on the drag link using a pickle fork. BUT your installing a new one.
Now make sure the guy was talking about the drag link. You also have a steering shock in the center of the linkage and it does wear.
You will have to disconnect the shock to replace the drag link. Bolts only.

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Old 04-07-2005, 12:35 PM
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Go here and learn about your suspension.

http://www.************************/BitMapPage.aspx?bitmapid=197&bitmapname=Front%20Suspension%20&%20Steering

item #6 is your drag link OR center link

item #12 is your steering damper.

Here are pictures of the parts, click on them to enlarge.


Steering damper

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/wizard.jsp?partner=mercedesshop&clientid=mercedesshop&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&cookieid=1HN0SOM5G1HO0R0KA7&year=1986&make=MB&model=300-E-002&category=M&part=Steering+Damper

Drag link or center link or tie rod assemble,center

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/quote.jsp?clientid=mercedesshop&cookieid=1HN0SOM5G1HO0R0KA7&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&partner=mercedesshop&year=1986&product=M3000-16364&application=000015698

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Old 04-07-2005, 02:53 PM
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Check you idler arm bushings while you are under there.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:28 PM
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[QUOTE=Hatterasguy]
Quote:
Originally Posted by A264172
go fishing next weekend on opening day... QUOTE]

Ha I'm in the same boat! $200 for a blower motor, or fishing gear...I need new flyline more then a blower motor, so...
Yeah I can't wait.
I go up for the weekend every year to the same unstocked stream... nine miles between roads of nobody... except for the 5 trout that live there, me and the 15 other guys I go with.
I have to save my tie rod money for fly rod expenses (like a liscence and beer).

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Check you idler arm bushings while you are under there.
Thanks for the tip. Should I just look for cracks in the bushings?
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:12 PM
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Yep I have been going for the last 10 years to a nice little river in upstate CT. We rent two 40ft trailers at a camp ground, I usually bring one of my friends and about 6-8 of my dads go.

I look forward to it every year! The MB is all ready, I think I will dust off my fly rod tonight!

I have a little 7ft, 4wt, 1 ounce Orvis. It is a sweet little rod and I wouldn't trade it for any other rod in the world. It is perfect for me. With Cortland 444 line it can lay out a nice presentation.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:41 PM
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7ft... you must be surrounded by brush and over growth like me
I actualy found a 4 piece 6ft rod last year that snapped on me 5 miles upstream... before I found out how much I like it. One things for sure... Ill have a spare pack rod with me if I try out its replacement this year. It was a nice little IM8 graphite spin fly combo from Dicks sporting goods I've never seen one that small before. When I went back with my reciept a week and a half later the clerk took pity on me and replaced it. I think I might go back up to 8ft though and use it as the spare... you get a little more roll cast off an 8ft...
Good luck this year.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:45 PM
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I started with an 8ft 6in, 6wt rod, but I just couldn't cast it. 90% of the streams I fish are very small and 7ft is long enough. I have a 9wt and 10wt saltwater rods if I want a work out!

On thing I like about Orvis is they have an awsome 25 year warranty. If you fall and break the rod they will replace it for free! It doesn't matter no questions asked they will fix or replace your rod for any reason for 25 years!

Good luck!
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