could you use a turbo from a saab ? i think fabs/mods would be easy enough since i have access to just about anything needed..

i thought i read somewhere that people were getting stuck on the exhaust mods .. is that because of the cast iron ? or because of space ?

i was at the junk yard today looking around and happen to walk by a saab turbo .. that got the mouse wheel going ..

anybody know of any other cars that the turbos would work .. what about cars that came with a supercharger from the factory .. anybody know of common cars that did that would work ?

i was looking under my hood and thought the hardest part might be incorporating the dual exhaust into one turbo inlet .. maybe it would be easier to use two

and no im not selling my 88 300se

or how about a turbo off a MB deisel engine ?

found a list of junkyard turbo's ..any of these i couild use ?

http://hondaswap.com/forced-induction/junkyard-turbo-list-48045/

Finding an exhaust manifold that does what you need will be impossible. You will have to fabricate one. You will also have to fabricate oil and water supply and return lines, but those are a lot easier.

You could use a crossover and one turbo, if you have the space. A second turbocharger takes up more space, but in different places.

You should post this over in the " Performance Paddock " forum.
All kind of Wingnuts hanging out over there.
Here, you'll only find " sensible " old folks.

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if i absolutely have to fab a new manifold i think i can have it done .. but what plumbing into it where the exhaust bolts up to the manifold ? i think it would be alot easier to fab up something that way ..

ill have to ask more from the guys who would fab i for me .. do i have to use cast iron for manifold ?

my main concern right now is to find out what turbo i can use .. then i can go from there as to mount locations and what needs to be fab'd ..etc ..

i am a super noob but i have tons of help so i think it can be done for very low cost .. and if its not a royal pain i may be able to have the fab guys do a few extra manifolds if anyone else is interested ..



these guys will be doing any fabs needed ( i know alot of insiders with access to anything needed )

http://www.nmiindustrial.com/

I believe you have a 300SE, which should use the M103-12V.
Consider two smaller turbos in the size range of a Garrett T2.
This is what I have on my TurboTechnics install and this is also the combo used by Willi Mosselman.
The key to performance on the M103 is to enable the KE-Jetronic to enrich under boost.
Mosselman did it with a proprietary piggy back adjustable controller that actuated the EHA.
TurboTechnics used two additional injectors between the air valve and the throttle body.
They supplied a non adjustable piggy back controller which needed to retard timing as it could not increase enrichment under boost.
We replaced all the TT control with a simple stand alone additional injector controller from Split Second.
Run advance on the timing and achieve 12.5:1 AFR under boost.

Running about 310HP and 340LBFT Torque with only 7PSI boost.

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1971 280SL ROADSTER
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO WIDEBODY
1994 E320 CABRIOLET
1999 C43 AMG
2005 G55K AMG
2008 CLK63 AMG BLACK SERIES

thanks for the info man !! i appreciate it very much .. this is something i really wanna do ..

do you have pics of the extra injectors ? and what is that tube t'ing off your water reservoir ?

how big is your intercooler ? and where did you locate it ?

i was thinking of using stock manifolds and right after the exhaust bolts to it running the exhaust pipe back up that way i could save the hassle of building new headers ... think that would work just fine ?

so each of your turbos is only putting out 3.5 psi of boost ?

is it possible to over spin a turbo ? for example if i had a small turbo but hooked up both exhaust to it .. would it screw anything up ?


thanks for your help .. im dying to get started on this .. just a uber noob when it comes to this stuff ... im trying to read as much as i can but its hard to find good info

It's a lot of work and very costly if you start from scratch and have to fabricate everything.
Easily about $10K

It's a custom casting that holds the two additional injectors.
It replaces the rubber boot between the air valve assembly and the throttle body.



Return lines for the turbo water cooling.
Turbo also takes an oil supply off of the filter housing.


About two feet long.
It mounts on the lower passenger side chassis rail, parallel to the engine.
There is a fiberglass shroud that creates a plenum for air intake from the grille area.



You're going to have to fabricate a manifold that first mounts the turbo.
The down pipe then comes off the turbo.

Each is fixed at 7PSI boost and feeds pressure to one side of the intercooler.
A larger single pipe exits the intercooler and feeds the boost to the plenum on the air valve assembly.

Not sure what you mean !!!


First decide what you're trying to achieve.
Possible better not to attempt to mod your 300SE and look at buying a 400E. E400 or 500E W124.
Will give you more performance at less cost then what you want to do !!!

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http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...c/GOWIDE-1.jpg
1971 280SL ROADSTER
1988 300CE TWIN TURBO WIDEBODY
1994 E320 CABRIOLET
1999 C43 AMG
2005 G55K AMG
2008 CLK63 AMG BLACK SERIES