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Old 11-15-2001, 03:07 AM
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Injectors Replaced - Chapter II

I finally got both the injectors changed in the 260E 124, and 300SE 126.

On the 124:

I noticed a prompt response on the kickdown, and the lightness in touch on the gas pedal. Previously, it was sluggish. Now it behaves more civilised with an even-power distribution at torque. Relatively ease in projecting 0-100 km/h without the sudden surge and slug.

The engine sounded smoother too - not so much like a diesel powered powerhouse.

I felt it was worth the while replacing the injectors - despite the advise of some.


On the 126:

The noticeable difference is in the accelerator. It seems much lighter than it was before, and the delivery of power could be felt - smoother than it was and with a gradual silky acceleration. Response was more sensitive on the depressen of the gas pedal.

I also changed the brake-pads (had original, and refitted original). Applied the brake paste AND cleaned with a generous spray of Brake Cleaner over the disc and within the brake-clips. Noticed silent-braking now. Am wondering how long would it remain silent before the squeaks return.

Summary:

It WAS necessary to change the injectors.

Thank you all for your comments and advise, to which I am grateful and guided.

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Old 11-15-2001, 11:32 AM
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Glad to hear it worked

Nice to hear good news...

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Old 11-15-2001, 12:13 PM
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Just changed all 4 injectors on my W124 230E (4cyl). I agree with your observations...well worth it especially on a 13 year old car like mine. The new smoothness of the torque band alone has made me very happy
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Old 11-15-2001, 08:10 PM
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Couldn't agree more with you, yal.

We took the car for a cruise last night and made 2 more observations in the "to-do" notepad.

1. To check the engine combusion.

The engine was last overhauled with pistons and valves change and grind last year. But somehow, carbon still accumalates. Rapid acceleration would blow those carbon away, and after a few successions of acceleration, the carbon built-up is minimal. I only notice this "habit" of carbon building in the W124 260E and wonder if any one else might have a similar "habit".

2. Tuning

It defintely requires a good tune-up with the new injectors. The idling has gone way up to 1.1, and thus the engine rev is a little noisy and burning excessive fuel ...
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Old 11-16-2001, 12:51 PM
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Kerry,
The high idle might be a sympton of something else...I am guessing it could be your idle valve. It sounds like you are also running rich. You might want to post this problem separately to get some responses.
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Old 11-16-2001, 08:24 PM
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Yal - The idle valve and OVP has been changed. I too think its running rich and plan to screw the CO down (not literally though). Will do that later and see how ir runs. As it is, I'm convinved that with the lowering of the CO, and thus rpm falls below 1000 - the noise should revert to near normal. I did a preliminary test last night and it sure confirmed my analysis.

I hope it won't lead to anything else or I'd be the first to email you for help and directions.

Keep well.

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Old 11-20-2001, 04:38 AM
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YMsin. sorry I missed Chapter 1. but what problems did you encounter that made you replace the injectors on the 126?

I've already gotten a fuel filter due for replacement, and I thought I may as well replace the injectors too. Any tips prior to and during the injector replacement?

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Old 11-20-2001, 05:13 AM
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YMsin. sorry I missed Chapter 1. but what problems did you encounter that made you replace the injectors on the 126?

I've already gotten a fuel filter due for replacement, and I thought I may as well replace the injectors too. Any tips prior to and during the injector replacement?
hi Merv - check out the link which would answer all your queries:
Necessary to Change Injectors?

Hope to meet you and your Benz in Singapore soon.
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Old 11-20-2001, 12:09 PM
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Hey Kerry,

What kind of mileage are we looking at on the W126?
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Old 11-20-2001, 08:18 PM
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hi Ted - the 126 we have has about 120K on it. The rolling pin on the running meter died this year, so I think it ought to be about 122K. But its definitely beyond 10 years.

What about your 560?
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Old 11-20-2001, 09:00 PM
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Hey Kerry,

It has 106,700 miles. No engine work has been performed *yet*, although timing chain and guide rails will replaced at 110-115k miles. Lifters are soemwhat loud and hope to replace them this winter.

It runs and starts like a charm, uses no oil, and beside the noisy lifters issue not much to complain about BUT, the car could be a *bit* smoother at idle when the motor is cold-- first 5-10 mins of running. It doesnt stumble and the tach is rock steady at the corrects RPMs when it's at a stoplight in "drive" or in "park", but it could be a smoother. I did run some Techron through it last winter, but I don't think it did anything.

I was wondering if it might be the injectors? I don't think it's the motor mounts, as it smooth as silk when I rev it...
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Old 11-21-2001, 12:14 AM
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Ted - you never know. New injectors could do more for a smooth engine.

It would be a luxury replacement - when nothing else needs doing, but the desire and urge to replace something exceeds common logic.
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Old 11-21-2001, 01:14 AM
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Ted, are you sure it's noisy lifters that is causing your problem? These engines have hydraulic lifters that I would have expected to take up the slack. My 560SEL has 70k on the clock and has valve train noise, not sure exactly what it is yet though.

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Old 11-21-2001, 02:39 AM
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YMsin, I've visited the thread, but I was expecting some technical reasons which made u replace the injectors. Nonetheless, I agree with u entirely on your quote:

It would be a luxury replacement - when nothing else needs doing, but the desire and urge to replace something exceeds common logic.

Looks like I will succumb to this quote very soon. Thanks and continue to enjoy your new injectors!


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Old 11-21-2001, 02:46 AM
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Ted, mine has somewhat loud, but harmless lifter noise too. I'll leave them alone for the time being.

But I'm gonna do this very soon: replace the 2 engine shocks. I've already replaced the motor mounts, but I can still feel a tad vibration of the engine body transmitted thru the car's chassis. "Blame" it on my creamy smooth idle, and my desire for a vibration-less wait at the stop-lights.

Cheers!

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