Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-30-2010, 06:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 102
1995 E320 Wagon - CEL Issue

Hello Everyone:

The Check Engine light came on due to a broken vacuum hose between the EGR valve and the small pipe that fed to the Switchover Valve. Replaced hose and then these codes came back on. The following codes were pulled from the car:

DM:
5: Exhaust gas recirculation faulty

Pin8:
39: Exhaust gas recirculation switchover valve - open/short to ground or B+

I already did the following procedures:

(1) Pulled Vacuum on the EGR side and caused the car to stall.
(2) The EGR pipe was cleaned 8 months ago.
(3) Wireharness replaced 18 months ago.
(4) Replaced Switchover Valve last year since I had the same codes as before.

I could not believe that the switchover valve broke after a year and I did hear the switchover valve click once I placed voltage on it. Just in case, I went ahead and ordered a new one and replaced it. Cleared the codes and the car seem to respond well (it's probably my imagination) and then, the CE light came back on with the same codes. Arrrggggh!

Is it possible that I may have a defective part? Anything else? Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Clive

__________________
---------------------
200 75 W115 (Mom's)
190e 90 2.6 W201
E320 95 Wagon W124
72 BMW 3.0 CSI
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-01-2010, 06:06 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 3,077
Clive, how was the EGR pipe cleaned 8 months ago? A MB tech advised me that he removes the intake manifold in order to access/remove the EGR pipe, then uses Berkebile 2+2 Gum Cutter to unplug the pipe. Inserting a flex cable from the EGR valve towards the intake manifold will not clean the EGR pipe adequately. Obviously it's a more difficult DIY job to do it the right way, and more costly to pay someone else to do it the right way.
__________________
Fred Hoelzle
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 114
Quote:
Originally Posted by cleavster View Post
Hello Everyone:

The Check Engine light came on due to a broken vacuum hose between the EGR valve and the small pipe that fed to the Switchover Valve. Replaced hose and then these codes came back on. The following codes were pulled from the car:

DM:
5: Exhaust gas recirculation faulty

Pin8:
39: Exhaust gas recirculation switchover valve - open/short to ground or B+

I already did the following procedures:

(1) Pulled Vacuum on the EGR side and caused the car to stall.
(2) The EGR pipe was cleaned 8 months ago.
(3) Wireharness replaced 18 months ago.
(4) Replaced Switchover Valve last year since I had the same codes as before.

I could not believe that the switchover valve broke after a year and I did hear the switchover valve click once I placed voltage on it. Just in case, I went ahead and ordered a new one and replaced it. Cleared the codes and the car seem to respond well (it's probably my imagination) and then, the CE light came back on with the same codes. Arrrggggh!

Is it possible that I may have a defective part? Anything else? Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Clive
I'm not the smartest guy, so you may not want to listen to this but... When I first bought my 1995 wagon it had 87,000 miles on it. The guy I bought it from said the check engine light would come on within a few weeks because of a faulty exhaust sensor (I think that is what he said). Sure enough, it did. So I brought it back and had him disconnect the check engine light somehow. I have 197,000 miles on the car now and never once had an issue related to that sensor. I listen to my car and pay attention to how it drives. I watch the oil pressure gauge etc... Never had a problem. When it runs rough I check the engine.

My 2 cents
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-02-2010, 05:49 AM
ASE Master tech, L-1
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Chattanooga,TN
Posts: 10
I don't have any info in front of me, but does this model use the oxygen sensor to monitor EGR function? I would try to find what the computer uses to measure EGR function. Not really sure that it isn't a manifold pressure sensor that it uses.

Last edited by mike278; 07-02-2010 at 07:12 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-02-2010, 05:57 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 398
Remember to keep an eye on the upper and lower engine wiring harnesses as 93-95 benzes are a ongoing issue due to biodegradable insulation that auto manufacturers were forced to use at that time.

Also the EGR needs alot of cleaning to get it clear for proper operation. Low mileage and low speed/idle operation only makes the problem worse. You have more buildup at low rpm(idle) then at highway speed. The low milage car you bought probably got great care but not everythng that is normal maintenance is on the tune up list ie EGR tube cleaning.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-05-2013, 02:48 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 102
After a long time, I am now having the same CEL issues. I have rechecked the EGR and switchover valve and they are working.

Now, when shifting on reverse or drive, I can see the idle go up and down slightly and the car is "chugging".

Today, I felt hesitation while accelerating and it feels the car does not have much power. Spark plugs changed about 8K miles ago.

Any ideas what to further check? Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
__________________
---------------------
200 75 W115 (Mom's)
190e 90 2.6 W201
E320 95 Wagon W124
72 BMW 3.0 CSI
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-05-2013, 06:22 AM
thayer's Avatar
Mercerator
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Mt. Airy, NC
Posts: 891
If it were mine under the shade tree, I'd swap in a known good OVP relay and drive it. Clean the intake manifold, drive it. If neither solution proved results, I'd start searching through postings with the keyword "Electronic throttle actuator" and the like. It is possible that problems on the intake side are manifesting as exhaust symptoms.

(This is of course after reading that the harness and egr and associated vacuum connections were all replaced and are currently not leaking.)

__________________

77' 300D, "Cartman" SOLD @ 150K (didn't know what I had)
83' 300SD, "The Superdon" 325k+ @ 28mpg
95 E320 wagon, "Millennium Falcon" 231k+ @ 24 Mpg
95 E300D, "Sherley" 308k @ 33.69 Mpg, currently anticipating a head
99 Suzuki Intruder "Trudy" @ 45 mpg
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page