Need some pointers: Looking to buy a 93 300te 4matic - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

dlssmith · #16 09-04-2013, 02:01 PM

My 87 sedan with the 103 is excellent in the snow. I can't see any reason to have the 4 matic, even though I always kind of wanted one. I have a set of 4 soft and knobby winter tires that grip like crazy and with that 2nd gear start, she crawls through the snow and ice about as well as anything I've ever driven.

duxthe1 · #17 09-04-2013, 08:59 PM

Once you've had a 4-matic you'll never want anything else. Adverse conditions OR dry pavement the amount of grip is insane. The t-case initially locks in a 60/40 split, but will go on to lock in a 50/50 split if lack of traction continues. In addition it will also lock the rear differential though I forget the order in which it does it. I think it goes 60/40, rear diff, 50/50 but not 100% certain at the moment. Point being GRIP and lots of it. I personally dare anyone to push a 124 4-matic wagon to understeer on dry pavement. On very slippery surfaces it does take a bit of getting used to but once you're familiar with how it will behave it is very controllable. I live in the Denver metro and have never put snow tires on my daily driver 4-M wagon. Even still I'm not afraid to plow snow with the front bumper.

lorainfurniture · #18 09-04-2013, 09:54 PM

How is the 4matic handle with the turbo? I could only imagine traction would be excellent

duxthe1 · #19 09-04-2013, 10:35 PM

4 wheel power slides are a blast

I think I'm getting pretty close to stripping the splines on my front driveshaft but I've been trying for a while and will call it an accomplishment when I do.

lorainfurniture · #20 09-04-2013, 10:37 PM

Getting off track, what did you do for the additional fueling?

duxthe1 · #21 09-04-2013, 11:20 PM

I currently run a standalone programable EFI and Ignition, Megasquirt. In particular MS2 Extra. Previously I had used an old Mosselman enrichment box with the CIS and stock EZL. I could run 9 PSI up to 5K RPM with the old set-up. With the programable EFI I run 18 PSI, but its also with an engine I built up better for boost.

Stretch · #22 09-05-2013, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture

Not terribly. This one stood out for me because the color is right, factory heated seats, 4matic, and the fact that it has the m103 engine. I have a set of nos mossleman turbos for that engine.

The miliage is on the low side, which is a positive as well.

I offered the guy 2k. He said no. The problem we have is that even with the body damage, and other issues, he thinks the car is in excellent condition.

And, he is pricing based on KBB.com which is useless on a 20 year old car. There where a couple of minor rust bubbles as well.

I don't think low miles means it will be easier to do a turbo conversion. I'd be looking for a car with lots of new non engine stuff on it that has been well looked after, as the engine will have to be pretty well rebuilt before you whack on the turbos.

Low miles doesn't necessarily help an engine =>

Calling all petrol engine combustion gurus (M102 based qu)

lorainfurniture · #23 09-05-2013, 09:18 AM

The mileage won't make a difference other than the indication of less use.

I have factory mosselman turbos that where designed for the m103 engine

duxthe1 · #24 09-05-2013, 10:54 PM

I actually sold a Mosselman setup several years back. When you go to hang yours on a 4-matic I may have a couple of tips to help you along. Personally, I prefer a single turbo to twins. I always tend to do things a little different though.

chandlerGTi · #25 09-06-2013, 09:34 AM

I think the car you are describing is a 6-800 car. People are scared of them and any body damage kills the whole thing. I gave $300 for mine and have been enjoying the heck out of it. Trans has no reverse but its not a big deal; found a jy trans and will rebuild it. Also; high mileage means nothing on these; this is my first 4matic but it won't be my last!

Edit: in my experience, the wagons do not rust as badly as the sedans. I'm not sure why that is but its what I've observed.