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Old 12-03-2013, 09:18 PM
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1990 2.6 190e Restoration Progress

Ok. So far:

Replaced water pump (leaking)
Replaced thermostat with 80•C thermostat
Replaced belt tensioner adjustment cam thing
Replaced main radiator hoses
Replaced radiator (leaking)
Replaced spark plugs
Replaced spark wires
Replaced distributor cap and rotor
Replaced lower control arms/ball joints
Lubed throttle assembly
Cleaned throttle body
Replaced all vacuum hoses around the throttle body/iac/cold start injector
Replaced one tranny hose at the radiator that was leaking
Replaced tie rod ends
Replaced oil pressure sender
Replaced flex discs
Replaced one vacuum actuator that was bad (recirc air)
Replaced numerous vacuum connectors
Heater core
Main fuel line
One fuel pump

parts on the way this weekend:

OVP (red top)
Brake rotors / pads / parking brake shoes
rear view mirror
Speedo cable
Restoring an instrument cluster sourced from junkyard
Throttle micro switch
EHA{current one drips fuel)



future:

Troubleshoot climate control .. acuators only moves positions when I pick max defrost button

Transmission is hosed. Slow reverse engagement, gray oil, numerous leaks. Modulator does hold vacuum for what it's worth.

Any recommendations on the tranny? Ebay?


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Old 12-03-2013, 09:29 PM
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Oh, also got the fader to work. POs had wired everything to line out..
And took apart / cleaned the seat switches. Now power seats work.
And replaced rear deck with newer style one from junkyard

so other than those things, guess I haven't done much to this car

I'm getting the dvd on a diesel tranny rebuild available online. Should be similar... Am going to rebuild the current tranny. But looking for a tranny that works enough to get me through six months or so. Not clear how to pull that off

Pelican parts is going to be rich before this is over!

Edit: also did front rear engine tranny mounts. NO uro parts.

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Old 12-03-2013, 10:09 PM
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You may want to post to the Diesel forum also; the mind readers hang out there, and they will be able to understand what car you are working on - even without you telling them!
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:16 PM
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It's a gas 2.6 190e. Figure that dvd rebuild is of the diesel tranny is pretty close
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:10 PM
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EHA arrived. I went ahead and put it on. I was a little nervous about getting a used one. So far so good. It isn't leaking. The other one was pouring fuel out the bottom. Hopefully I got away with it. 110 shipped w/ warranty.
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:44 AM
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You may want to post to the Diesel forum also; the mind readers hang out there, and they will be able to understand what car you are working on - even without you telling them!
Saw the title of post "1990 190E 2.6"

LD, what type of spark plugs did you use? Also, what is the condition of fan clutch? You did not mention replacing that. Also the alternator. Recommended upgrading the alternator to the 120/150 amp one from a S600/500.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:29 AM
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The spark plugs are Bosch HR-9-DC+. I missed the fan clutch on the list above. I had to replace it because the PO had stripped the allen bolt. I had to grind it off. The new bolt is a torx head which is nice.

I keep seeing two different alternator part numbers. One has a longer shaft? Will the S600/500 alternator work for both?

I do have some amperage issues. When I turn the headlights on the blower motor slows down. I don't have an ahmeter to check condition, but the alternator looks original.
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:03 PM
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I used a 1995 S600, 120amp. awesome
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:58 PM
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Was it plug and play? Or did you have to make modifications?

I'm planning a big project to do the head gasket and timing chain. While I'm in there:

Rebuild steering pump
Alternator
Belt tensioner and shock
Pulley plate (?) Right below the distributor. Mine is obviously shot.
Rebuild the head

Looks like the next repair has to be the tranny though.

Can't wait to get the mechanical stuff out of the way. She's going to be a all black benz with euro headlights.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:10 PM
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The gauge needles turned out better than I hoped. I used Tamiya X-6 orange from my local RC car shop. I I popped the glass (well, plastic) out of the cluster. It was less than graceful. The plastic in there on both of my clusters is extremely oxidized. I'm still planning my attack on repainting the plastic.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:08 AM
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Yes, definitely plug and play,. the only thing you need to do is source a bigger gauge wire from the alternator to the positive battery terminal. some people chose the 140/150 amp from the mid 90s S 500, the reason I chose to use the 120 amp from the S 600 is because it was cheaper by about $80. I'm guessing there probably isn't a difference either once you get over a 110+ amp alternator because even at idle I'm cranking out about 13.8 - 14v.....with a full load I still put out about 13.x - 12.5+ v.

I'm a huge fan of the all black look. Actually I credit the theme of my all black car to forum member oldsinner. He has a black/red w140 and that is my favorite model/body style of all mbz.....that and the w211. I made the homemade projectors/hid lights to further make it stand out which I get a lot of compliments on. Even from enthusiasts that prefer the all stock look have given me complements. huge difference in light output as well.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:30 AM
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The spark plugs are Bosch HR-9-DC+. .
Generally around here its recommended not to use the "R" resistor type spark plugs. The system was not designed for them. I use Denso T20EP-U in my 190E 3.0. I recommend them. They're pretty cheap.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:10 AM
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I'm using Bosch 09146 wires. The only spec I can find on the wires says 1k resistors built in? So I shouldn't be using these plugs?
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:17 AM
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I'm using Bosch 09146 wires. The only spec I can find on the wires says 1k resistors built in? So I shouldn't be using these plugs?
On these cars the resistance is built into the wire, so the plug should have no resistor in it. On other cars (non mercedes) its the opposite.

So my recommendation would be to not use any plugs with resistors in them.

Denso T20EPU is what I use in my 103. I've had no problems with them.
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:09 AM
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I found them for $10.88 shipped. I had the most luck googling for denso 5031

I may be getting a 93 190e sportline if I can get the seller to contact me back. Or another 2.6 190e with decent transmission. It's starting to make sense to me to just buy another full set of parts. The lesser of the two will be stripped to the bone and frame scrapped.


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