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Old 02-20-2003, 11:11 PM
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List of US Mercedes Models with only 4 cylinders

Dear friends,

Could you please list Mercedes cars which have only 4 cylinders.
(including diesel and gasoline ones). Which of them is the most
reliable?

Thank you very much.

Eric
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Old 02-20-2003, 11:58 PM
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1967 two hunnet 200 D fintail, slow
any 240D is very reliable

190D 2.2 automatic, slowest thing alive

190E 2.3-16 nice car, but a tuned up 8v is about as fast
190E 2.3-8v Id prefer the 8v actually

200E w124 body euro
230E w124 body euro
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Old 02-21-2003, 12:20 AM
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Thank you very much, Omegabenz and tkamiya.

tkamiya: I'm only interested in 4-cylinder cars because I'm very much for environment, and I also do not drive fast.

SUV's with 4L+ engines should completely disappear from this earth IMHO

Thanks again.

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Old 02-21-2003, 08:27 AM
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What does the fact that your car has four cylinders have to do with the environment? The most significant effect on fuel mileage is WEIGHT. Why are you not asking what is the lightest weight Mercedes ever made?

We are ALL concerned about the environment. Extremism that leads to driving cars with only four cylinders has an insignificant effect, even if everyone drove one.

The world is about BALANCE. What about folks who drive an SUV so they can haul several people rather than having three smaller cars on the road? Do the math on that.

In case you haven't noticed, this is America. I don't choose to drive an SUV, but if I did, and I were willing to spend the extra fuel money, it is my right to do so, just as it is your right to ride a bicycle if you wish. That's an idea, if you are so concerned about the environment, why don't you ride a bicycle?

Have a great day,
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Old 02-21-2003, 09:25 AM
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Amen.
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Old 02-21-2003, 12:28 PM
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Geeeez louise, bite the guys head off why don't you
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Old 02-21-2003, 12:44 PM
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'I'm only interested in 4-cylinder cars because I'm very much for environment, and I also do not drive fast. SUV's with 4L+ engines should completely disappear from this earth IMHO'

Yal, these statements bring strong reactions because they demonstate a strong conviction and firm conclusion based on a complete misunderstanding of the technology and and how it affects the issues that concern this individual. This same faulty reasoning is common in other non-expert fields, such as politics and political activism. It's too bad, because the issues ARE significant.

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Old 02-21-2003, 01:02 PM
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Yes, the issues absolutely are significant. What turns it all into emotion is EXTREMISM.

I am a landowner. As a landowner, I consider myself a steward of the earth, at least my little piece of it. I take this responsibility seriously, but with practicality, rather than an extremist approach.

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Old 02-21-2003, 01:05 PM
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Our originator sounds like a Honda Civic man. A new one would be cleaner burning than any of the older vehicles described to this point.

Leave the old MB's to people who know and like automobiles.
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Old 02-21-2003, 08:37 PM
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Take it easy gentlemen!

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Old 02-21-2003, 09:15 PM
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How about the W115 230.4 offered through 76 and the W123 230 offered in 77 and 78?

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Old 02-21-2003, 09:23 PM
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if I wanted a benz in the US for fuel economy and environment I would go with the 1987 190D 2.5 turbo stick shift, extremely rare car, but about 46 mpg easy.

Microbes eat diesel soot, so its all good there.

Diesel is a byproduct of making gasoline.

If I could get any mercedes Id get the new one like the C30 AMG or something like that, its the diesel. Next year in the C coupe.
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
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1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 300E Amg Hammer 88k mi sold
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 02-21-2003, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by omegabenz
if I wanted a benz in the US for fuel economy and environment I would go with the 1987 190D 2.5 turbo stick shift, extremely rare car, but about 46 mpg easy.
One too many cylinders :p

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Old 02-21-2003, 10:26 PM
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There is usually a Citroen 2CV on E-bay. It has a 550 cc. 2 cylinder engine.

Probably the most ecological friendly cars would be the Toyota Prius or that Honda Insight 2-seater with the hybrid gas/electric engine.

The VW 1.9 TDI barely throws out any soot, gets 45+ mpg and they say they last forever.

You could run it on vegetable oil and have an exhaust that smelled like french fries, or for a special treat, burn peanut oil.

Add a teensy bit of Hershey's syrup for a Snicker's-like exhaust.

mmmmmm!
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:26 PM
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I feel much the same. I want MB driving experience, but don't wish to compromise on things like fuel economy.

The aspro W202 M111 engined C-Class sounds like an ideal car for you. I get mileage in the 27-35US MPG range, but have a very sound car with superb safety, great handling, and capable of making some decent fun on a mountain road.

The M111 aspro engine (94-98) is as smooth as most sixes (save maybe for an MB six) and is easy to maintain. The 97 and 98 C230 cars have the five speed tranny which aids performance. The 1998 cars have the "later" exterior and interior bits and side air bags. They also have the SmartKey, which is nice. This time last year my father bought a super clean 1998 C230 Elegance for less than the price of a new Accord. He's loving it.

Just because someone hates SUV's doesn't mean they have to drive less than a Mercedes.

On the new car front, look at the C240 (it's a six, but very economical, especially with 6-speed) or the new C230 1.8L sedan.

You might also consider an E-Class diesel. Our 1998 E300 got 35+US MPG and was a very large car. Look at the 1996-1997 non-turbos, as they seem to be less problematic that the 98-99 turbo cars.
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