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Old 02-24-2000, 12:40 AM
aussie2u
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On a '73 450SL, the engine runs rough, and will improve slightly if you push down on the distributor with engine running. It's all original points and stuff.

Question is, does it make sense to "upgrade" a 1973 ignition to the popular new electronic coil & "computer" boxes on the aftermarket?

Are the claims for 10X hotter spark and stuff true?
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Old 02-24-2000, 10:49 AM
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Hi Aussie(et al),
There are several options for converting the ignition system to electronic. Many years ago (when I had to work on English stuff as well as MB stuff)we used various versions of the LED systems(Crane,Allison,Luminition)to correct the problems inflicted on those cars by "The Prince of Darkness"(Lucas). The kits tended to be a bit too universal.They came close, but they were never quite right.I prefer(and use)a magnetic-trigger system.
The key is to avoid converting a marginal distributor.The kits will compensate for some wear, but the timing will still be inaccurate if the distributor bushings and springs are worn.
The claims made by most of the manufacturers aren't completely untrue, but they do tend to embellish a bit. For example, one claims that the "computer" senses the needs of each cylinder and sends exactly the right amount of current needed to each cylinder. It's a basic characteristic of "any" ignition system to only produce enough current to overcome the single largest resistance in the circuit. So even a stock ignition system "senses" the needs of each cylinder(from an electrical standpoint).
Multi-spark or "CD" boxes are another area of misleading advertisements. The multiple-sparks are required to prevent plug fouling at low speeds due to the short discharge(firing)duration of capacitors....
Please excuse the "plug", but this is what I do for a living. I rebuild and convert Bosch distributors.Please feel free to contact me privately for more information.
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Randy D.

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Old 02-24-2000, 11:51 PM
franco
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quote:
Originally posted by
aussie2u:
On a '73 450SL, the engine runs
rough, and will improve slightly if
you push down on the distributor
with engine running. It's all
original points and stuff.

Question is, does it make sense to
"upgrade" a 1973 ignition to the
popular new electronic coil &
"computer" boxes on the aftermarket?

Are the claims for 10X hotter spark
and stuff true?



just solved the problem with a poor running 450sel this engine had not run up to par for over a year, replaced a couple of clogged injectors, new plugs,cap,rotor,wires and coil. The engine got to the point where it would not start. To make a long story short I bypassed the condenser, the engine immediately fired and runs like a dynamo unbelievable. I hope this helps others with similar performance problems.
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Old 03-01-2000, 03:26 AM
ColMc
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Franco, did you replace the Condenser with a new one?
The Points will burnout really quickly without a Condenser. It stops the arcing across the points when they open.
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