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Old 09-15-2003, 03:36 AM
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doesn't start, waterblaster the problem ?

I need some help, desperetly
I did waterblaster my german benz
,, with my german kaercher waterblaster
and this was the end of the fun !
I was to start it and it doesn't start !
I did NOT waterblaster it under the hood !
I just cleaned its outside and did do the wheels,,
when starting the car it has heaps of power, spark in the plugs,,but doesnt kick the final startup !
I have tried for 3 days now !
I have opened up everything I can open up just to ensure that no ater has trickled its way in under the hood,
after trying to start it for 3 days the battery went dead,, when charging the batery it wont start again when gear is in park !
I get nothing when turning key when in park but when I put gear in neutral I can start it,, just the full I want to start but the final kick doesnt come so it starts ! 3 days now ! I called road assistance since I live far away from any towns and workshops, this guy that came didnt know how to open the hood on a mb and he hit his head on the hodd,,he took the plugs out and said:heaps of spark,,dont know why it doesnt styart and then he left me !
I am in New Zealand and as far away from workshops that I can come!
I won't tow it in to town,,they have no MB workshop and it wil be the same guy that came out to look at the plugs !
my thought is, is there something that I can have hit with the water when clening the whels,,something undreneath, something close to trans since it now only wil even make some noises only when in neutral ??
need help !
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Old 09-15-2003, 04:34 AM
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Talking high pressure water sprayer

I did have exactly the same problem if you could search for my earlier post about 2 weeks ago. I used my GMC water blaster(Italian pump) and my car also refused to start the next day. I was shocked as it always started first turn without stepping on the accel. Its a 1994 C180 with 194,000kms. I then stepped on the accel. and kept the starter motor turning and it started after a few tries, but I had to keep on stepping on the accel. or the engine would die. This kept it turning for a few minutes and I stepped harder and released a bit and watched the Rev. counter so it wouldn't go lower than 1000rpm. Eventually it idled at 850rpm which is normal and since then I don't have the hard starting anymore.

No one can say why, but a brainhead said that I must have sprayed directly into the front grille which I may have and this could have shocked the poor car and it had a heart attack or a stroke. Maybe there are some relays or whatever in the frontal area which could have been affected by the high pressure wind and water spray. Anyone have any clues about this???
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Old 09-15-2003, 05:31 AM
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if it was that easy to start it,,sigh,,
I did try for three days,,
tomorrow is day 4,,
thought it will dry out,,
but then when battery did get empty and then when I can't even get it to turn on P and have to have N to even get it to turn !?
I have opened up box with fuses, taken sparplugs out and cleaned them and made sure they are dry,,tested for spark, spark is strong,,
sparkplugs are almost new,,
battery makes engine turn and turn and turn,,
but the final turn to make it start doesnt come,,

it is a pain since nearest town where I can find a MB workshop will be more than 50 km away,,have to tow it that far,,
and car is so low so I cant get the jack in under neath it at the front,,
thought of getting undeneath it and look if there is something under engine that connects to trans that might have got a sprinkle from the waterblaster,,
I looked at your previous post but there was no replies ?!
did you get mail replies ??

* I once used to live in europe in a big city and now on the other side of the world and only cows and sheep as neighbours**
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Old 09-15-2003, 06:02 AM
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Talking water blaster havoc on Benzs

MB300ENZ, no one replied to my post as none of the US or UK readers knew what I was talking about. Obviously they don't know we have to use this now due to stage 2 water restrictions. However this product came from EU countries where they are more used for cleaning driveways, boats and caravans and trucks, maybe not cars which are more easily accessable due to their lower heights. I have a feeling also that the air supply has been affected by the high powered air and water spray which may have got into the air filter and inlet valves and shot the motor temporarily. Everything else connected to the engine is and will be closed if I am not wrong. Correct??? Its really the very fine water vapour or mist which is likely to have been sprayed into the airfilter opening as the engine bay is not big and is almost fully enclosed so the mist had to go somewhere right? Where else except down the open bottom, but mine has the plastic tray under. Geez I think I am right so next time we should all try to find the airfilter's open nozzle and close it before using the water blaster!!!
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Old 09-15-2003, 03:21 PM
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They use waterblasters in europe aswell,,
but they do not know about water restrictions,,

I have water where I live in New Zealand all the time,,touch wood,,but I do use the blaster to clean wheels since I live in farm area and some farmers on the way I drive to my work have places where their cows cross the road so I get cow poo on my car,,
that is why I tried to water blaster the wheels clean,,
first time with this car since I bought it just 2 weeks ago because I need a reliable car !
when I have waterblastered my other cars,, US ones the only thing that has ever happend is that they might not run totally ok but it will be gone within minutes,,
but this car is dead since now 4 days,,

*blonde swedish lost in new zealand and with no car interested friends, left them in europe when I moved here*
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Old 09-15-2003, 03:56 PM
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I don't know if this will help but I just did the same thing to my 280TE except I did the engine directly. I solved the problem by removing the distributor cap and cleaning the contacts for the coil and the plugs.

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Old 09-15-2003, 04:34 PM
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If it won't turn over in P, but will in N, look at the neutral safety switch at the trans. Make sure a wire(s) didn't get "waterblasted" loose.
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Old 09-15-2003, 06:25 PM
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I have workshop books for all my other cars,,
old cars where things sit and look as they should
does someone have a pic of what it could be that made the trans have to be in N but not in P to make it turn ?
what is it that might have got disconnected or wet ?

it is so silly,,car wants to start but the last sparkie thing doesnt just come,,sigh,,
when checking sparkplugs it is real STRONG spark !
ditibutor looks dry,,but I will unplug cables when I get home today,,

get long workdays when no car,,can't get home by myself from work,,and it is dark when I get back home,,
cars, we can't live without them !
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Old 09-15-2003, 09:59 PM
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dist cap

try taking off the distributor cap and let it fully dry out.
Or better yet,replace it,unless it is fairly new.
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Old 09-17-2003, 10:26 PM
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me and carparts what they are callee in english,,hmmm,,
think it is the crankshaft,,
I spoke with a meccanics and he told me that it was something that could have got a spray thru the grill,
I did go thru car again with the air compressior and air it from every angle I could think of from the grill and also the ditributor cap one more time,, and then it started !
it goes like crap !
let it sit on idle and it sounds better and better so I left it but then it turned itself off and it dint want to start again,,I am on the right way, give it a go again tonight !
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