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Old 08-23-2000, 12:08 PM
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Note: my responses are only for vehicles that I have owned and/or driven, although that automatically excludes lots of interesting cars!

Most soulful:
1983 Mercedes Benz 280SL, Euro, 5 speed
1987 VW Vanagon Syncro, 5 speed
1979 Dodge W150 Power Wagon, Club Cab, long bed, full time 4wd, 4 speed NP 435 trans
1989 VW Cabriolet, 5 speed (daughter's previous car)
1998 VW Beetle, TDI (daughter's present car)
These vehicles weren't necessarily the most reliable (especially the Dodge truck), they just had the most character. Curiously, all were/are stick shifts!

Most soulless:
1987 Chevy G15 conversion van, by far
1967 Dodge Dart
1983 Dodge 600 ES
1995 Ford Club Wagon 150
Almost any vehicle Hertz rents, especially a 1999 Buick Century I rented in Las Vegas
All but the Dodge 600 were/are automatics.

John R. Boyce
Bismarck, ND
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Old 08-23-2000, 01:01 PM
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Early Lamborghinis
Jaguar XKEs
Early MB SLs
Anything Aston Martin

The early 80's square Caprices
Buick Road Master
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Old 08-23-2000, 07:44 PM
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Thought I would only go with cars I owned. If you are looking for MBZ in the list, you will be disappointed.

NO Soul (No taste when I bought these)
-- 1962 Ford Econoline Pickup, with Mustang I6 (the engine fell out on the road one day)
-- 1973 Ford Torino (4 dr, with bench seats!!)
-- 1987 Pontiac Bonneville "POS" (traded after 4 months, utter garbage)
-- 1996 Ford Taurus SE (wife's old lease)
-- 1992 Ford Explorer (can you say NVH?)

Lots of Soul (not in order, still sometimes no taste though)
-- 1994 Taurus SHO (another wife's lease)
-- 1985 T-Bird Turbo Coupe (a light nose with a 4 banger turbo did wonders for this car's handling... trust me)
-- 1959 MGA (didn't last long but sweet)
-- 1972 Fiat 128 (I'm 6'6", what a blast to actually fit in, nevermind drive, for an underpowered econocube. Itty bitty Michelins drifting at 34mph)
-- 1963 Chevrolet SS '327 convertible, posi, Muncie, 375HP, red with dual whips and chrome
-- 1988 Lincoln LSC Coupe (Don't knock it until you've crossed country in it)
-- 1969 Dodge Charger 440, Same color as on Dukes of Hazard (Can you say TORQUE?)
-- 1967 MGBs -- A pair, one rusty, one a parts hound
-- 1997 GMC Yukon (Like driving your living room -- just don't try to stop. Soul was realized in full one day when we did an on blacktop pulling comp with my friends Expedition. I dragged him backwards up the street in 4lo, with his tires smokin and snorting til he stalled.)
1967 GTO -- ooops, almost forgot it, had to come back and re-edit!

'99 E430

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Old 08-23-2000, 08:45 PM
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Another 2 cars that had a lot of soul were the 40s something Tucker and the 81 Delorean.

The Tucker was way ahead of its time, colored cars, revolving headlamps, rear air cooled engine, etc. Also the Delorean was a big hit in a blockbuster movie with futuristic styling. Delorean was also one of the designers of the first GTO a while back.

Both Tucker and Delorean were innovators and were ahead of their time, so ahead that people were not ready for their designs. Not for a lack of quality or style, but due to finanacial backing did they fold. Gutful risk takers are perhaps the most soulful of all.

'89 420 SEL
'90 300 SEL
'68 Olds 88 Convertible
'84 300 SD (sold it)
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Old 08-24-2000, 03:00 AM
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Most soulful:

1. Lamborghini Miura SV
2. Bentley Continental T
3. Mercedes AMG Hammer
4. Cadillac Seville STS (WITH Northstar)
5. Ferrari 250 GT California

Least soulful:

1. Minivans (duh!)
2. SUVs (except the mighty G-Wagen)
3. Most Japanese cars (Kia, Daewoo, etc..)
4. BMW 524td
5. Dodge Dart (yuk!)

Aaron Greenberg
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Precision Motorcars, Cincinnati, Ohio
'67 250SE Cabriolet
'77 450SL
'80 300SD
'85 380SE
'86 420SEL
'89 420SEL
'93 300E 2.8
'74 Jensen Interceptor Mk.III
'81 DeLorean DMC12
'84 BMW 745i Turbo
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Old 08-24-2000, 11:13 PM
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British-American Soul: Jensen Interceptor Convertible (383 ci)

French Soul: Citroen SM [Cheap French Soul: Citroen Deux-Chevaux in Charleston trim]

Swedish Soul: Saab Sonnett (the anti Volvo)

Italian Soul: Anything with a mid engine painted red. Front engine red cars with prancing horses on 'em qualify as well.

Japanese Soul: uhhh, uhhh, wait, I'm thinking, uhhhh.. hmmm, well, uhhh. Perhaps a German car instead.

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Old 08-25-2000, 01:54 PM
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I think the only Japanese cars that had any soul were the early Datsun roadsters, maybe the early '70s Datsun 510 (a poor man's 2002), the first generation 240/260/280z (78 was the last year, I think), and the most recent ('93?) Mazda RX-7. With that car, Mazda tried to build a real sports car, without all the fluff had become standard on the z-car and the hideous Mitsubishi 3000GT, but the public rejected it as too harsh, etc. But the bare-bones R-1 version sure hauled ass and handled well!.
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Old 08-25-2000, 03:06 PM
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my cars that I loved
1) 1991 190e with 288,000 miles, AMG body , wheels and suspension. Still own it.
2)1968 El Camino, It was great being a cowboy in Philly. (Penn)
3)1966 Olds 442 sigh
4) Any benz convertible
5) My 87 16 valve
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Old 08-25-2000, 06:49 PM
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hmmm.... my soulfull cars would be (in no order of course )

Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
Volkswagen MK1 GTi
Volkswagen MK2 Rallye Golf
Nissan President.

Hmm.... I know I'm forgeting something.... oh yeah my car W202 280 Sport. hehehehe. But I must admit I'm still not fond of my W202.

Still don't feel that MB sould stuff. I guess after more time with it.... I still love the dubs though!!!!!

Paul,I lost your addy. can you email it to me so I can send your disk?

And thats my WERD!

My name is Joey and on both mercedesshop and vw vortex i am known as nokia8860.
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Old 08-25-2000, 09:08 PM
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My top 5 "street cars" with most "SOUL"

#1 Lamborghini MIURA!!!!!!!!
#2 most Ferraris
#3 cobras
#4 mini coopers
#5 early Porsches (356s & 911(2)s) PRE-74

least soul or none at all
#1 every car that ever came from asia!(yes, even the Z)

#2 most(if not all) US built front-drive cars

#3 most suv's

#4 minivans

#5 did I mention asian cars? and yes, I've owned a few, even raced a datsun 110 & 510 in SCCA. Still, no soul, that's something you can't COPY.

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Old 08-26-2000, 04:27 PM
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Soul [Personal experience]
1. 1986 911 turbo
2. 1983 300D-T
3. 1973 Volvo 164E [250K - no rebuild]
4. 1896 Peugeot 504 D
5. 1983 Volkswagen GTI

No personality
1. Majority of SUV's
2. SUV/car hybrids
3. Most "average" cars built after 1990

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