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Old 08-25-2010, 12:43 PM
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The Outlaws of Gruppe B

Hello Peaches,

I was reading an article in Automobile Magazine about Gruppe R, the club for hot rod vintage Porsches. They are a world-wide club limited to 300 members who are invited to join. Their cars are modified in ways that disturb the "Purist" crowd; like putting a 3.6 liter engine in a car that originally had a 2.2 liter engine, or painting the car wild colors and adding graphics.

The Emerald Bullet is my inspiration and reason to feel like an outlaw. I changed the generator to alternator, and swapped 2.2 liter for 2.8 liter engine, and switched the 4-blade fan for a 6-blade unit. These items mean that my car is no longer "original", so I am embracing the bad boy inside.

My ambition is to start our own outlaw club called Gruppe B. I can think of several Peaches who would qualify like MercMad6.3, Jive Turkey, and DAWII. Anyone interested in joining?

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Sound like the club I am in. "cept we pissoff the concourse Cougar crowd. We even brought our own trophy to a national meet in 2005. Gave it to the best "Modified". Was a blast.

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Old 08-25-2010, 01:28 PM
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The Emerald Bullet is my inspiration and reason to feel like an outlaw. I changed the generator to alternator, and swapped 2.2 liter for 2.8 liter engine, and switched the 4-blade fan for a 6-blade unit. These items mean that my car is no longer "original", so I am embracing the bad boy inside.
Why Jeffrey, you rebel!

Does bondo count as a mod?
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Old 08-25-2010, 01:57 PM
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Sounds good to me, how do you shoe-horn a V8 into a 280C, haha.
I'd settle for EFI and no distributor in the 280C though...I guess I already have the alumn wheels that have the hubcaps over them. All it takes is time and lots of $$...I think I need to learn how to weld...

I do love the RGruppe though, cool period looking cars with hotrod tweeks hidden.
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Old 08-25-2010, 02:09 PM
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JATO boost. Hmmmmm?
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What's in a name?

So, how did you come up with Gruppe B? Do I become a member AFTER I drop the w108, 67 250SE motor into the w180, 58 220S ponton?
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Well, I guess I'd qualify.

Got my '72 250C powered by a fuel injected M115, (that makes into a, what, 235C or a 250C 2.2?) converted to a 4 speed manual, Sanden A/C conversion, electric fan cooled.

My '73 280, Holley carb conversion, electric fan cooled.

My '74 280C, being Megasquirted (yes, I'm taking pictures and will post the progress, just calm down Nathan ) with the interior from a '71 250C.

My '85 500SEL, Megasquirted and in the process of converting to wasted spark ignition.

The '85 kind of bums me out. I was hoping the tranny was trashed or something major would be wrong with it body-wise because I had these visions of dropping the M117 into my 280C. No such luck. Darned thing is mechanically sound, more's the pity. Too nice of a car to trash so I guess I'll just have to bear up under the burden of driving around in a W126.
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Haha, I'd say all those cars would qualify, as long as they look period correct with some hot-rod mods.
BTW, congrats on all the megasquirted mods, you are a trailblazer!

To give some of you an idea of what R Gruppe is in the West Coast Porsche community:
http://www.tremotorsports.com/gallery.cfm?Node=10304

Also, I've personally been inspired by this car!!!
looks like he removed the bumpers and made his own f'glass front bumper...nice!!!
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Well, I guess I'd qualify.


My '73 280, Holley carb conversion, electric fan cooled.
Pics? :-) Would love to see that.

Only mod so far for my 250C is Unity fog lights instead of the factory originals. I plan to do a custon paint job too.
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I had a 1967 W111 230S that I put a turbo diesel engine into. Unfortunately the car rusted out.

I currently have a 1980 W116 300SD that I am putting a 5 speed manual transmission into and converting the power windows, sunroof, and heat to manual. I'm also installing Euro lights, rear headrests, and factory seat heaters on 4 seats. I have already installed bumpers from a 6.9 and 15" Centra wheels. I plan on giving it a two-tone paint job and two-toning the interior as well. It won't be a car for a purist, but at least it will have a factory look.

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I like the idea. I have been 'upgrading" a few things on my fintail. I put 15inch steel wheels, I found a factory AMG front sway bar out of a 300sel 6.3 which fit
in the fintail. I also have the rear bar, but that may take a bit of "moding" to
make fit. I also have a set of custom springs on the way which are going to be a bit shorter to lower the car a bit. I will also look at some engine
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So, how did you come up with Gruppe B? Do I become a member AFTER I drop the w108, 67 250SE motor into the w180, 58 220S ponton?
Gruppe B is for Benz!

It looks like we have several candidates for Gruppe B membership here!!

One of the foundation principles of the Gruppe should be modifications using Mercedes Benz parts for modifications. Putting a Chevy V8 in a Mercedes will still be considered sacriligeous. As I write this... I recall that my alternator is Japanese made for a Ford truck. Oh well...
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Every vintage Mercedes deserves to live. However, it is not always practical or possible to restore every car to Concours de Elegance standards. I am happy with safe, reliable and beautiful with a big side order of COOL!!
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Every vintage Mercedes deserves to live. However, it is not always practical or possible to restore every car to Concours de Elegance standards. I am happy with safe, reliable and beautiful with a big side order of COOL!!
So true. If you find a good deal on a 600 limo about the only way most people will be able to afford to drive it will be to de-option it and maybe swap out drivetrains and suspension, etc.
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I LOVE this idea... i've been seeing some cool benz mods recently... here's a few to get some inspiration going!







all of those were lowered pretty much, which i'm not a big fan of personally, but to each their own... now this one though, i could deal with owning...
"w123 mercedes custom fitted with supercharger and turbo charger with intercooler air to air and mobil oil cooler"



And a little video of it in action-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czV3fwZ73gc

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