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Old 01-17-2005, 03:57 PM
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Does your car "feel" different when cold outside?

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Our E300D feels little different when its cold outside. Today it it -11 C outside and even after the car is fully warmed, small rattles can be heard in the cabin etc. When it is warm, the car feels more smooth and no rattles can be heard.
I realize temp plays a big role on how metal, plastic behaves etc... Hopefully this is why it rattles

Do you guys notice the same thing, in cold climates.? I realize temp plays a big role on how metal, plastic behaves etc...

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Old 01-17-2005, 04:54 PM
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I notice that too....

Aside from the engine needing to be warmed up for a longer time, I used to have a rattle that would eminate from the r. rear door panel. In the spring and summer the rattle would be gone, but in fall & winter, it would return. The rattling was sourced to the rear window lift mechanisim, which typically on cars of thhis age, are showing their age- my lift in the r.rear door was "sagging"- the window was not closing all the way, and was out of position.. that combined with the cold tempeartures created that darn rattle. So I replaced my window lift and the squeak never returned....
The 300DT has been rattle & squeak free ever since, in all temps.

The C280 on the other hand is a completely different story. Rattles, shakes, and squeaks can be heard on any day of the year... even though the car is up to par iin terms of maintenance, rattles abound! Seems that fit and finish build quality went down hill on the W202 and newer Mercedes cars.
The Most annoying rattle though, eminates from the rear hat shelf brake light housing and rear window sunshade housing... the thhump and vibrate along with the radiio!!! Its like nails runniing on a chalkboard! I re-tightened thhe bbrake light housing down to the hat shelf, and although that did reduce vibratiion, thhe cover for thhe bulb housing vibrates against the housing itself... thanks to the loose fitting plastic on plastic fiit and finishh! I am going to try and remedy that by lining the edges of the cover that meet thhe housing with soome sort of felt like material, thin enough so thhe cover will still close, but soft and thhick enough to absorb thhe vibration... the rear sunshade vibration is a whhole other project in itself...
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:20 PM
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- 11°C !!!!! Why do humans insist on living where it is so daggone cold?
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:29 PM
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- 11°C !!!!! Why do humans insist on living where it is so daggone cold?
Randy, if you call it 12 F., it doesn't feel as cold.


BTW, how do you type that symbol for degrees as seen above in the quote?
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:02 PM
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My motor mounts on the 124 vibrate the whole car from about 35 degrees down! The colder it gets, the vibration gets worse! But after about an hour of running, the vibration is barely there. If I put the car in reverse the vibration is gone all together. Maybe I can get away with replacing only one motor mount, but will do both in the spring!

Also, when below 12, the climate control suction motor burried below dash panel to floor, sounds like there is no lube in the elec motor and squeeks louder when steering around turns in the road. BB
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:13 PM
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BTW, how do you type that symbol for degrees as seen above in the quote?
On a Windows machine, I just use Alt+0176 (hold down Alt key while typing in the digits). One could also launch the "Character Map" application, and then pick special characters from there.

Somebody will probably come along now and point out some better, faster, slicker way to do it, so maybe I'll learn something new.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:14 PM
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I guess Im not the only one with the vibration problems.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:24 PM
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On a Windows machine, I just use Alt+0176 (hold down Alt key while typing in the digits). One could also launch the "Character Map" application, and then pick special characters from there.

Somebody will probably come along now and point out some better, faster, slicker way to do it, so maybe I'll learn something new.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:51 PM
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we dont have that kind of differences in weather here, but when it is cold outside (relatively for our climate here), my car seems to be happier running around... livelier engine and all.. (especially when it is raining)... as compared to a hot sunny day....where the car seems to bog down or feel rough and sluggish...

as for the rattles.. well.. hot or not. i have those.. even the squeeks.. hehehe... i believe the rattles and squeeks are more pronounced when it is cold due to the contraction of metals (?) though they are solid materials they do have some contraction/expansion in them.. and when it is hot outside, the materials expand and this basically makes the panels, doors "fit" better as opposed to a cold weather... well.. that's the way i see it.. ehehe.. i maybe wrong.. not really a rocket scientist.. ehehe..
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:32 PM
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BTW, how do you type that symbol for degrees as seen above in the quote?
Hold down and type: 0176 -> °

U umlaut: 0252 -> ü

Trademark: 0153 -> ™

mu: 0181 -> µ

Cool eh?

Look for the 'character map' under "Start -> Programs -> Accessories"
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:37 PM
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My driver's side door really rattled a lot today, and seems to always do so when it's really frigid. Definately seems like there are a few more creaks, rattles and ticks when the temps drop. Wind chill about 4 degrees farenheit right now.
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Well, other than the very sluggish engine when cold (I drive very slowly until the temp guage reads at least 40C) and the fact that the driver's window AND the radio antenna both froze shut this week, I don't feel any difference. Maybe a bit more power when it's really cold out, but that also around here usually means ice on the roads, so I'm not in a hurry -- got passed a couple time a few weeks ago when we had black ice everywhere just around sun-up and saw several cars in the ditch....

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Old 01-17-2005, 07:44 PM
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It's normal

At those temps your car is simply shivering
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Old 01-17-2005, 09:28 PM
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Hey today I noticed another thing

When the car is warmed up, and Im at a red light and the car is in D, having my foot on the brake I observe the following:

When I put my head between the headrest and the door pillar I feel a slight vibration. When I drive off the vibration goes away. Would this point to weak engine mounts?
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:20 PM
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Hey today I noticed another thing

When the car is warmed up, and Im at a red light and the car is in D, having my foot on the brake I observe the following:

When I put my head between the headrest and the door pillar I feel a slight vibration. When I drive off the vibration goes away. Would this point to weak engine mounts?
Did your head bounce back and forth between the headrest and door pillar?

It is a 10 year old diesel in sub zero temps, its probably going to vibrarte a tad.

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