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Old 07-10-2005, 06:45 PM
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Wagon Brake Calipers Same as Sedan?

Hi All,
Are the Brake Calipers on a Wagon (300TD turbo) the same as the Calipers on a sedan (300D turbo)? Front same and back different? My calipers on my new wagon are smoked and I may have found some off of a sedan of the same year.
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:03 PM
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123?

if it is a 123, they are the same in my experience. i have had an 82 and an 83 td. the wagon will be a little harder on the brakes because of the extra weight.

i had trouble with my td warping rotors. i feel in retrospect that a td would be a good candidate for a vented rotor and caliper installation from the s class. it is all bolt on.
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:47 PM
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Yes, Both are W123.
I've never had probs w/ the brakes in my wagons, but before this one, they were all NA...
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Sorry, but they aren't. The piston/bores on the rear calipers are slightly larger than those on the sedan. It's not an obvious difference until you're doing a rebuild, and you find the boots and seals for a sedan don't fit!

I assume the front brakes on the wagon are the same as those on the sedan. At least the rebuild kits are interchangeable.

Found out the hard way,

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Old 07-12-2005, 12:05 AM
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interesting

fact. sorry to misinform. i guess i only changed the fronts. the pads are the same, though, right? so the difference is i guess, subtle.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:06 AM
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btw

i bet there are some wagons out there pulling a little to one side because people have changed out one rear caliper!
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Yes it is the same

Hi there,

I just had a problem with my 300TD (83), so I order 2 new kits for the rear calipers.
I hope to post pictures in the next week how to do the rebuild. It took me a good 3 hours to finish the job. With my luck :-) my wife's 300D 84 had a problem too at the same time. I found out that the calipers are the same.

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Old 07-12-2005, 12:25 AM
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DIFFERENT for sure

Fronts are the same, rears are different. Look up parts online and that will show you. There are also different types, ATE, Bendix to name a couple. I just bought one rear and rebuilt the other. the first caliper I got from O'Rielly's was the wrong type. They gave me a sedan rear caliper. Like someone said earlier, the piston is smaller on the sedan caliper. No doubt!
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i bet there are some wagons out there pulling a little to one side because people have changed out one rear caliper!
I believe you're right on the brake pads, BTW -- they appear to be interchangeable with the sedan/coupe.

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