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Originally Posted by Shawn D.
As someone who was born "ITP" and on average has 20 more years "ITP" than folks who use the terms ITP/OTP (i.e. non-natives)... oh, nevermind! 
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Yes us true natives who stay ITP are rare indeed.
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6. The Hellas I'm installing actually are "Euro"
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Excellent. I was thinking the exact same for my wifes TD. I just always found the cheap doors and sealed beams to be the only part of the car that was truly ugly.
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It's pretty flimsy compared to the Yakima I already have. Also, the stock piece appears to only be good for suitcases or maybe a Christmas tree. I don't know how you'd use it to carry three mountain bikes up there in a civilized and safe manner, nor for carrying lumber -- I do both of these with the Yakima which is adjustable, customizeable, and easily removable.
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Ya it is certainly not a bike rack kind of car. You "sporty" beamer owners. Tsk. Do you have the Yakima wind deflector too? (rubbing elbow in ribs).
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