2006 320 Cdi - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

bgkast · #31 12-01-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris

There's a European Audi for which there is no engine access at all.

Years ago there was great outcry over the end of oil pressure gauges.

Lile that, most will "get over it" as regards dipsticks.

In the same manner there will no problems ... but there will be lots of uninformed complaining.

Yor're right. Where do I sign up for my hoodless car? I hope it can drive its self too.

Hatterasguy · #32 12-02-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by husk

FSS also adapts to your driving style, it reduces the amount of time between service intervals if you drive your car hard. It also calls for a service a or b depending on how hard the car is being driven. For example on my car it called for 3 A services in a row now I am 3000 miles away from a B service. Sometimes it alternates between A and B services one after another, it all depends on how hard you drive you car.

I have the 00+ cluster not the 96-99 cluster which tells you how many miles you are away from a service but that also is based on how hard you drive your car.

The new system is totaly different and on a whole other level. It calls for all service not just oil changes. Brake pads, filters, coolant ect. Look into it its pretty cool.

Johnhef · #33 12-02-2006, 12:57 AM

...and a lot of it is wrong. hence the decision to go back to A and B services again. The car would call for 60K and 100K services after only 10-20K. Try explaining that to your warranty clerk.

"But the car TOLD me to do it!"

aklim · #34 12-02-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel M. Ross

I like the fact that these "hi-tech" diesels are helping the diesel come-back... but having just driven one of these come-back kids in Italy for two weeks [Renault Megane - 1.5L that can run 100 mph on the straight & level], I'm puzzled as to why the auto companies are so willing to incorporate anything electronic into these cars. I guess they must think it sells.

I firmly believe that the new diesel technology could be incorporated into a car withOUT much of the add-on " tech stuff " and sell more cars... and in the end build more customer satisfaction and allegence!
What do you think?
Regards,

For one, it is going to be a damn sight more reliable than the human owner in practice. Yes, if you are going to religiously check your dipstick when you are supposed to, you could be right that it will not fail. However, most people don't. I am one of them. I check it pretty often but not on a weekly basis.

If the other car company has it, that is where I will be going. I sold my Honda Rincon for a Polaris 800 Sportsman EFI. Why? Because of the EFI. Honda was way too late to develop it. Wife also has a Polaris EFI. I don't want to screw around with jetting whenever I change altitude.

aklim · #35 12-02-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselAddict

Electronics can and do fail. Dipsticks don't.

What about the dip**** that is supposed to check the dipstick? If he/she fails to do it, what do you think the good of it is? My wife has never checked a dipstick in her life and probably won't until I do it for her. If I were not there, she would just bring it in for service when FSS tells her to.

aklim · #36 12-02-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TMAllison

I bought into the lack of a trans dip stick on my 99 with its "filled for life" (haha) tranny when I first got it and appreciated the low engine oil sensor that it has.

My sensor unfortunately does not sense oil level accurately, nor does the replacement I installed. My dip stick however is accurate and therefore needed so I dont inadvertently overfill when the silly sensor lites up in error.

Hope the quality of electronics has improved. Wonder how they have gotten around the sensors going off when the car is parked and then started on a very steep hill?

Mine seems to work well. No false readings yet.

aklim · #37 12-02-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel M. Ross

... they can design the new cars with all the new "electronic" reminders they want but don't do away with something that is so basic as fluids dip sticks!! Do they think that all consumers are idiots who will NEVER check their engine?
Regards,

Do you carry an umbrella for that 1 time of rain on a daily basis? I don't have a 6 pack of condoms for when I get lucky. I buy them as needed.

Bill Ladd · #38 12-02-2006, 07:59 AM

Ok, ok!! I'm convinced. I just ran outside, threw away my dipstick and epoxied over the hole.

Just gonna use the idiot light from now on.

Whew, one less thing to worry about!

J/K

For me, a large part of the fun of owning machines is getting my hands dirty messing with them. Ever since I can remember, I've loved working with my hands. Something very fulfilling to me to hear a once-dead machine roar back to life, or the solution to a particularly vexing component problem become aparent (after the swearing and wrench throwing subsides).

For a while I drove a 1950 Chevy coupe. You could keep that thing running with bailing wire, duct tape and a paper clip

I can't imagine owning a car that prevented me working on it. Don't know what I'll do when all the older iron ages away.

To each their own for sure. I know tons more people than not who are attracted to maintainence-free vehicles. I reckon we who love to tinker are in the minority.

aklim · #39 12-02-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lux

For me, a large part of the fun of owning machines is getting my hands dirty messing with them. Ever since I can remember, I've loved working with my hands. Something very fulfilling to me to hear a once-dead machine roar back to life, or the solution to a particularly vexing component problem become aparent (after the swearing and wrench throwing subsides).

For a while I drove a 1950 Chevy coupe. You could keep that thing running with bailing wire, duct tape and a paper clip

I can't imagine owning a car that prevented me working on it. Don't know what I'll do when all the older iron ages away.

To each their own for sure. I know tons more people than not who are attracted to maintainence-free vehicles. I reckon we who love to tinker are in the minority.

Problem is that most people don't do the maintenance and when there are issues, the blame the car. Ever know anyone to say "My car broke because I was an idiot and didn't maintain it?" Nope. It is always "(insert brand here) made a crappy product."

Yes, we are in the minority which is why they aren't catering to us. Gone are the days where you pull in for gas, they clean your glass and check your oil, etc, etc.

Moorewr · #40 12-02-2006, 03:43 PM

I test drove an 04 d, had no dip stick for engine oil, my E500 (04) does not have dip stick, use computer with engine shut off to check oil.
Ron Moore

deltajetfixer · #41 12-02-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TMAllison

My sensor unfortunately does not sense oil level accurately, nor does the replacement I installed. My dip stick however is accurate and therefore needed so I dont inadvertently overfill when the silly sensor lites up in error.

I'm planning on installing a replacement sensor for the very same reason. My present one goes off with the oil only being down 1/4 the way on the dipstick.

Did you notice ANY improvement?

toomany MBZ · #42 12-02-2006, 06:13 PM

I understand the dip stick is a dealer installed option. Such nonsense.

husk · #43 12-03-2006, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

The new system is totaly different and on a whole other level. It calls for all service not just oil changes. Brake pads, filters, coolant ect. Look into it its pretty cool.

yea they now have Service C,D, E and F I believe..... FSS also looks at other parameters a service B includes a lot more than an oil change are you referring to FSS Plus (european Assyst)? Mostly the services that are in D E and F like in A are visual inspections. Before I got my w210 diesel I had a w211 and the only major difference was that you could actually go through each item and see the percentages..... In reality its not that much different than FSS just a little more thorough...