Even though Diesel fuel is more $pendy than gasoline in California, I like the fact that over the long run my old W123 operating co$t$ have been absurdly low, I'll keep it as long as I can .

Same thing with my twenty year old truck ~ it's in VGC and gets 25 MPG no matter what, I'll just leave it when I die .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Heh, I’m in Boone Nc taking a c.e. Class and noticed a solar farm feeding a dual charging station here in town… recharge is free… town provided wind and solar… nice.

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

ICE are on their deathbed where they belong. The thought of holding on, as a daily driver, to my rattling, noxious belching 25 miles per very expensive gallon, '70's (1950's really) technology with ever more NLA parts is getting more oppressive by the day.

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'83 SD, 2x '85 SD
You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

Respectfully, you sound like a very knowable and environmentally friendly car owner.

Can you share what kind of electric cars you and your family drive everyday in place of the ICE vehicles of the past?

As my signature reflects I'm not currently driving one (I have a lifetime's supply of SD's in which I might start runnning a WVO blend) If I were to buy another car it would most likely be a used Leaf or anything in that price range with a battery that lasts a little over 100 miles enough to get around locally.

No such thing as an environmentally friendly car. Friendlier, perhaps.

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'83 SD, 2x '85 SD
You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

Appreciate your expert opinion on non electric cars.

I'm about to get out of diesel. The last two fill ups on my 300D were $78 and $101. $3.60-$3.75 for gas vs. $4.98-$5.25 for ulsd. Worse, the local bio-diesel coop is teetering on bankruptcy (bio-d was my main reason for getting into diesel to begin with). 90% of my driving is 6 miles round trip to work.

But this has been on the horizon since diesel-gate effectively killed consumer diesel in the US.

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1991 300D 2.5 "Rocinante"
2002 Golf TDI "Teen Spirit"
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1984 300D
1966 Mustang I6 3sp
1985 Mazda RX-7 GSLSE
1982 Toyota Supra
1977 Datsun 280z
1971 Datsun 240z

Sad as the bias against diesel cars in north America has been present for a very long time. Never found the actual reasoning. Government has had to have a major involvement though.

Had we gotten the high fuel milage engines imported it may have been a different story. I suspect they could have controlled the pollution issue much better with the smaller engines.

I have a limited time left and will stay with more modern diesels if possible. The wives current Passat diesel as delivered in Europe. Gets 103 miles per imperial gallon highway. The Golf as the Polo sold in Europe just under 100 miles per imperial gallon for years now.

As sold in north America both had the optional diesel engines. I rate the wives Passat as possibly having far more engine than really needed.

The diesel Passats were sold in north America with Goodyer golden eagle tires. Speed rated at 280K per hour or 160 miles per hour. O-60 is under 6 seconds. Faster if the computer is optimized by a dealer. See them on utube.

Factory specs in north America for them are with the smaller European diesel I suspect. Top end 112 miles per hour and 0 to 60 in11 seconds.

You drive it locally keeping the tach at 1200 rpm or less. Fifty miles per hour is 1200 rpm. Dash indicates 57 miles per imperial gallon average. Consisting of town driving and back and forth to the cottage 17 miles away.

Currently we are also using a Toyota Corolla and it seems like a fuel pig in comparison.

Rudolf Diesel developed a fuel farmers could make on their own to power their farm machines. That was cool. Most were vegetable oil based. Then came fossil fuels.

The battery and motor technology that's coming is just too good to not change course. I'd prefer to still be able to 'pilot' my own vehicle...but most likely my 5 year old daughter will be in the generation of the self-driving 'car'. It won't even be a 'car', just like these days a 'phone' is 90% other stuff besides a phone.

I'd like to see the older cars kept on the road, converted to electric. Lots of folks doing this all over the globe. It makes more sense to me than just scrapping everything and mining all the components we need from 3rd world countries and screwing them over in the process.

But that's probably what will happen!

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1982 240d RHD OM605 & 5spd swap


1982 240D LHD/RHD & 300TD LHD / 1983 300SD LHD / 1986 300SDL LHD / 1992 300TD RHD / 1998 C250 TD RHD


www.repaircafeglasgow.org

In Indonesia currently, so thought interesting to report one can fuel with bio-diesel ("Bio Solar") for only Rp 5k/ltr ($1.26/gal USD). It is 10% bio-fuel, or B10. In comparison, gasoline costs Rp 17.5k/ltr ($4.42/gal) at national Pertamina stations. But, above is a government-subsidized price and there is also subsidized gasoline (lower octane) for slightly more at Rp 7k/ltr.

Yes, diesel is termed "solar", so be careful what you fuel with. A co-worker long ago mistakenly fueled a gas rental car with diesel fuel in Spain, being confused by the terms. Gasoline is termed "bensin" in Indonesia, as in Holland and Germany, compared to "petrol" in British lands. "Gasoline" is only used in the Americas, from an 1880's brand name.

https://money.kompas.com/read/2022/04/22/204210426/update-harga-bbm-pertamina-shell-dan-vivo-jelang-mudik-lebaran-2022

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1984 & 1985 CA 300D's
1964 & 65 Mopar's - Valiant, Dart, Newport
1996 & 2002 Chrysler minivans

Price of gasoline and diesel has fallen enough. People are almost happy with the current prices here. Although they are still quite a bit higher than a few years ago.

I have to wonder if this was just a clever manipulation? Some time yet until I decide.

We also have such a spread in income levels today. Many do not feel or care about the cost of energy. I kind of cared myself when diesel was over 10.00 a gallon in eastern Canada. Just not about us as we have an open expense account with a government department.

For the average guy raising a family I just felt they were being unreasonably hit.

Were their income levels going to increase to cover the new and ongoing increasing costs overall? In my historical experience probably not fast enough. Only advantage of being eighty years old. Usually you have seen things before.

Our daily drivers are just utilty devices to us. My only real consideration is cost per mile of ownership. Currently until we disconnect from one income stream that is a positive amount. We bill 86.4 cents a mile. No short trips and plus our time. Over ninety percent highway.

My service company runs diesel trucks… I average 20mpg thereabouts, so I charge .50/ mile, to cover fuel costs… it is a burden everyone will be paying… the dip is nice, best price I’ve paid recently is 4.47/ga…

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Wow - Did it get that high? Presumably you are talking USgal and C$?

We got to about C$2.23/L but this link says that it peaked in some areas of Ontario at C$2.44/L. That would be C$9.17/USgal or about US$6.90/gal.


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Right now, it is down to C$1.56/L here which is about US$4.41/gal (But only at First Nations stations!) About 4 or 5 years ago, when in SC we paid US$1.68/gal! Now ~US$4.52 at same station.

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Graham
85 300D,72 350SL, 98 E320, Outback 2.5

Seems high! $3.65 here. (oops - that is for Reg. Diesel $4.79/gal!
https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/north-carolina/mount-holly

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Graham
85 300D,72 350SL, 98 E320, Outback 2.5

Yeah… try checking the DIESEL price… come on, have you seen diesel that low this year?

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!