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Old 12-15-2016, 07:14 PM
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Give it some time. If you have done this for five years, you must be pretty good at it and it must be some fun. You can always slow down and concentrate on just the best ones, the ones which need less R&M to get them ready to flip.

And we all care enough to keep these great cars on the road as long as possible.
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Old 12-15-2016, 07:48 PM
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Heres a real winner ,I set out to sell a car on CL ,car runs and drives but will only shift no higher than 2nd gear.Its in descent shape and the buyer was aware after seeing the car of its problems and condition.He tells me he will buy it but wants x,y,and z done . I said as long as you buy it I will agree to install x,y and z.I do explain Im in the process of moving and need till the weekend for completion.Long story short ,weekend arrives and 2 things he expresses wont work .Me keeping the plates ,me needing to pay for his tow because Im keeping the plates.Text ,text,text ,later I get fed-up with the guy about mid weekend after he tells me I didnt tell him the car will only go 25mph .I look for a way of getting his $200.deposit and decide to pawn a valued piece of jewlery since money is tight.I grab my phone and look that he was calling and left an angry message about him being a Free Mason and I will regret my deeds . What a piece of work this guy is ,I really needed this money because of family issues and also having to move but not nearly bad enough to deal with someone who calls you out as dishonest .I told him to meet me in a public place and I WILL return his money .I spent the evening with family and proceeded afterwords to the time and place set, after handing him the cash across the table I told him to loss my number . Watch out for this kind of buyer ,the ones having you jump through their personal hoops and telling you the whole time how honest they are about business transactions.


Your job is to figure out who put it on you,,, The "mason" flake, or perhaps yourself for going in deep on old clatter trap benz's

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Old 12-15-2016, 08:10 PM
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I see a few problems.

If your first post is anything like the communication you had with the buyer, it leaves lots of room for miscommunication . ( as in all run together and difficult to read. )

E mail is difficult enough to get communication right, text is much worse it seems due to limited space. Besides, if someone has a phone number, call them by voice that way misunderstandings don't take on a life of their own.

Spending the deposit isn't the fault of the buyer.

Unless there was a written agreement ( on actual paper ) as to what is going to transpire, the deal is unclear and each party will have different expectations.

And, it seems that older formerly high end cars bring out odd buyers.
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Old 12-16-2016, 02:21 AM
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I followed you all the way to where you mentioned having to pawn jewelry to refund his deposit. A deposit is to hold until the transaction is completed, not for you to have already spent. Put yourself in his shoes and wonder how you might reply if concerned you will ever see your deposit again. I also wonder how clearly you expressed the transmission issues and wanting to keep the license plates, since your 1st post is not very grammatical, with clear sentence structure.
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Old 12-16-2016, 09:13 PM
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Its a rant ,rants over ,moved on.Nothing to see hear but

































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I think ill right the twelve days of christmas and input car parts I put on for ahole free mason.I know ,I need that damn grammar guard.RANTEY A DE DE RANT RANT ,ok ,its out of my syst
















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Old 12-18-2016, 09:05 AM
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Its a rant ,rants over ,moved on.Nothing to see hear but

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Dude, A couple of points.

Bill and I came to the same conclusions without talking to each other. When two ( or more ) people come to the same conclusion perhaps what they are saying is true.

We were not battling fine points on when the use " a " or " an " , your post is borderline illegible. The buyer apparently was illegible in communication as well. Non specific goals, communicated in a non specific manner, will yield non specific results.

I'm guessing you run your life like this as well and blame others for your misfortunes. At this point you have a choice, get your house in order or be doomed to struggle for the rest of your life.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:16 PM
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Dude, A couple of points.

Bill and I came to the same conclusions without talking to each other. When two ( or more ) people come to the same conclusion perhaps what they are saying is true.

We were not battling fine points on when the use " a " or " an " , your post is borderline illegible. The buyer apparently was illegible in communication as well. Non specific goals, communicated in a non specific manner, will yield non specific results.

I'm guessing you run your life like this as well and blame others for your misfortunes. At this point you have a choice, get your house in order or be doomed to struggle for the rest of your life.
After reading most of the OP's posts here on thread - this just about nails it with pinpoint accuracy - in my way of thinking too.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:42 PM
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Boy, this is a really tough audience. My point, way back there, was just not to give up. I have rarely found that giving up helps.
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Old 12-18-2016, 03:08 PM
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I followed you all the way to where you mentioned having to pawn jewelry to refund his deposit. A deposit is to hold until the transaction is completed, not for you to have already spent. Put yourself in his shoes and wonder how you might reply if concerned you will ever see your deposit again. I also wonder how clearly you expressed the transmission issues and wanting to keep the license plates, since your 1st post is not very grammatical, with clear sentence structure.
I disagree here...

A deposit belongs to the seller. It is funds promising full sale completion.

Only refundable if the seller backs out of the sale...
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:09 AM
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My belief is when you are selling something have the condition of the vehicle and the terms in writing then there is no "he said she said" about the deal. Before the buyer signs besure it has the buyer test driveing the Car or if the buyer did not test drive show that you offered that.

The other part of selling which in your perticular case is might not have been possible is to avoiding having to sell in a short period of time. Try not to be a "Motivated Seller" that the buyer can minipulate and take advantage of.

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Old 12-18-2016, 03:51 PM
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I don't fully agree. If the buyer has stated expectations that aren't met by a certain date, the buyer can call off the deal and demand return of the deposit.

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Old 12-18-2016, 04:16 PM
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I think the learnings for the seller here are: avoid emailing or texts with buyers - period. No sarcasm or jokes intended with this advice. Clear email comm can be hard on a good day, even for people who's job is to write. Arrange and communicate all sales in person or over the phone.
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Old 12-18-2016, 04:46 PM
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Legally you're better off having everything in writing, however. Email and text are both considered "in writing" in court. Verbal agreements, while legally valid, are rarely worth the air they were uttered with as there's usually no proof.

I still don't quite understand what happened here, so I can't comment on that. Seems like it's been beaten to death though.

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