In DC violence in schools by the drug crowd is an affair that makes the news at least weekly....and heaven knows how much never makes it to the news desk.

I am sure there are many areas that this is an alien concept.....but in a lot of areas (mostly liberal dominated cities) its a matter of life and death.......seriously. And it really is a damn shame its even needed.

The sad thing is that at some point, I'd like to think that person had at least one parent who looked into their baby's eyes and had great hopes of a happy future.
As probably all parents can attest to, there are feelings you have for your kids that are more powerful than anything. It's amazing. If you remember the feeling of a first love and how powerful that was, whether it was reciprocated or not, you just begin to understand the feeling a parent has for a child.

The latest info from Plantman is encouraging. :)
Based on that, I humbly suggest taking the attitude of
'OK, this is the situation. We're all affected by the consequences. It's not great, but far from the end of the world. Let's work together as a family and move on.'

Well, sounds like the kid will make out good after all. Also sounds like he has a promising future in politics, making people feel sorry for him when his hand is caught in the cookie jar.

I had hoped to go to kollege and avoid the draft where I was from. Unfortunately I screwed the pooch and was in danger of being thrown out. Dad warned me of the consequences. Of course, I was smarter than Dad and didn't listen. When I got thrown out for bad grades because I spent too much timre partying, what did Dad do? Just say "Oh Well". He DIDN'T go begging the kollege to reinstate me. I had to serve in the milutary for 731 days (88 was a leap year) and that taught me that I need to get serious about skool. Next time around, I did much better and graduated.

Aklim,
I agree with your Dad's actions re: not attempting to bail you out in College for grade slippage. A 15 or 16 yr. old kid in high school is a different matter, IMHO.
My Dad didn't bail me out either when it came to college.Granted I had no draft to worry about. I never got in any trouble in HS.

Except I was 16 at the time I was in kollege. I did a bunch of classes before then in my spare time. While I was at home, I had to keep out of trouble. When I was in kollege, I was free to screw off, get drunk, get laid, etc, etc. I did all that and forgot my work. Got an academic probation and a warning from dad. Didn't listen and for my 18th happy birthday, I had to leave kollege because I didn't make the grade.

Kinda getting off track here again but the boys mother (Ross's friend that got busted yesterday) came over all upset because she got her letter from the BOE. They have to go before a BOE tribunal to determine his fate. She was wanting to know whether she needed to have a lawyer present or not. She came over discussing it with us because we went through it last year with Ross. Seems they found pot residue, drug paraphernalia and a box cutter in his car. It will be 8 days before they meet and he will miss school for at least that long. He will more than likely have to spend the rest of the year in alternative school and worst case they could suspend him from school for the remainder of the year. She was real upset and said she was not saying anything to hubby because she did not want him having to deal with it.

I mentioned to the wife that in my opinion we should have the same system as in Canada and she said that they should never decriminalize pot (she is pretty old school in that regard) and she reminded me of the movie "Reefer Madness":eek: where she learned everything that she knows about it;). Things are such around here nowadays that if tobacco would never be legalized if it weren't already.

Translation: Lets get the brat off the hook without involving Dad because the kid might be punished and we can't have that. If we just reason with him, he will see the error of his ways and change for the better.

aklim - yea, thank goodness he is not mine. They try to keep everything from dad at that home because dad will have his arse at military school which in all likelyhood would not be a bad idea.

This is not a bad idea too. Maybe, someday, with some luck he will end up on a slab in the morgue. At least that way, he won't be a burden to working people in the society.

You didn't end up on a slab in the morgue, due to your past, self-described misbehavior, and AFAIK, you are not a burden on working people in the society, so, why wish the worst on the kid? :confused:

I didn't because I had a Dad that made damned sure that I didn't. Everything I did wrong that Mom knew, Dad soon knew. This kid has a mom that is trying to shield him from that.

Which simply means that your original opinion regarding a military school becomes all the more valid. Without a proper father figure, the military is sometimes a very good substitute. No need to check him out of here so fast, IMHO.

What do you want? An optimist believes we live in the best of all worlds. A pessimist is afraid this is true. I am a pessimist. As such, if he turns out for the best, it is a pleasant surprise. If he, as predicted my me, turns up in a morgue, no surprise there given the lack of control in his life.

Oh, I know full well that you are a pessimist.

However, a pessimist would simply argue that the military won't do him a bit of good and that, ultimately, he will probably end up in the morgue.

Your original statement was that, "with some luck he will end up on a slab in the morgue".

Maybe I misinterpreted this to be a bit brutal on the kid. You may have simply thrown in the towel on the kid and assumed that he will now become one of the many "drains" on the resources of society, and, as such, deserves to be put out of his misery. :rolleyes:

It will make sure he straightens his act out at least for the duration of the stay. Will it hold? Maybe, maybe not.

Well, if he does continue on this road where mom protects him from the wrath of dad, he will probably end up as a drain on society. I mean, his mother is even trying to rattle sabres with a lawyer to clean up the kid's mess. You think he will even learn from that? I don't think so. Basic law of intertia. Unless acted upon by an external force, he will continue in his path. Mom is stopping that external force, so what do you think? Look at the quality of the kids we have today and tell me there is hope.