So, the suicide thread got deleted? Please read regarding political/religious threads

[Cap'n Carageous]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Thank you so much for your vote of confidence, yes I'm such a lax and lazy moderator I'm just going to let OD go to hell in a handbasket (PS the use of the word "hell" in a post doesn't make it religious).

Gilly

My comment was in regard to the possibility of it getting so nasty that moderating it would be a chore instead of a pleasure. I, in no way was insinuating fault on your part. See, therein lies one of the inherent problems. Things can be read into a post that were never intended. Good luck!

[Gilly]

Well I feel like a kid trying to talk his mother into letting him have a dog, but I think this will be pretty easy but will seem rather heartless.
Gilly

[Brian Carlton]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Carageous

Be honest now, you made up that word , didn't you!!

fatalism : the belief that all events are determined by fate and are hence inevitable.

fatalistic : adjective form

[Brian Carlton]

Originally Posted by Gilly

My style isn't to lock threads, I don't want locked or "dead" threads, so I will stick with my original offer............... Right now if say there are a bunch of pre-election posts from several months ago, WHO goes back and looks at that junk? SAME for "what is the best lawnmower" threads or some other such trivial stuff. Keep things in perspective, WHO CARES 6 months from now about a political debate on OD? No one.

I respect your approach and, after consideration, agree that most OD threads are just wasting bandwidth after they hit page three.

However, I have one request:

When you plan to delete the a thread, would you consider locking it for 48 hours prior to the deletion?

This has a dual purpose:

1) It allows all members to see a thread that has gotten out of hand and will be summarily deleted. This will benefit you in the long run because it clearly shows the boundaries.

As an example, I was not able to read the posts that drove your decision to delete the most recent thread concerning suicide. However, if I noticed a lock on the thread this morning, I would have taken careful heed of this thread in an attempt to see what the cause(s) were to lock the thread.

2) If there is any information in the thread that I personally wish to keep, I have the option of saving it on my computer for the future. While I agree that this is unlikely in the case of OD threads, it gives the members the option.

TIA for your consideration.

[Cap'n Carageous]

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I respect your approach and, after consideration, agree that most OD threads are just wasting bandwidth after they hit page three.

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TIA for your consideration.

Wow dude, do you think this forum is all about you???

[Gilly]

Cap'n, I don't see a problem with Brian voicing his opinion, kinda hard to do that without using "I".

My decision in deleting the suicide thread wasn't truly because it was getting out of hand, if it were getting out of hand at an early point I would have deleted it right away. It was deleted because it was or was quickly becoming a religious thread. What I am offering is allowing 3 threads similar to the suicide thread(political or religious themed). With this new idea I probably would have left the suicide thread alone for maybe another 24-48 hours before deleting it. Maybe this makes my offer easier to understand. IF you or others still think it would be beneficial to lock a thread I am going to delete for a couple days, I can do that as long as there isn't an outcry on "why are you deleting this thread!!". As I pointed out, if it's kept civil it will stay longer, if everybody is bashing everybody else, lot's of yelling and flaming, it will won't last long, but in that case yes I could lock it and put a note on the end on why it got locked and deleted so fast.

Gilly

[Brian Carlton]

Originally Posted by Gilly

As I pointed out, if it's kept civil it will stay longer, if everybody is bashing everybody else, lot's of yelling and flaming, it will won't last long, but in that case yes I could lock it and put a note on the end on why it got locked and deleted so fast.

It would be beneficial for all to see that a thread has exceeded the boundaries, and, hopefully, the decision will not be questioned.

I look forward to the change.

Thanks for your consideration.

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by Gilly

I can do that. I'm a moderator.


Hard to define I guess. "Any topic discussing organized religion, unorganized religion, sprituality, atheism, or warm fuzzy feelings towards anything other than another human, your MB, truck, boat, toolbox or job. Discussing wedding plans, a wedding reception you attended IF beer was served, or a funeral you had to attend or death of someone you know is OK, but don't get too deep about it. Details on the beer at the reception is also OK, but be advised my taste in beer isn't very worldly"


Agreed, but that's not the point. Eventually even an oil thread can become political or religious.


No complaints. The problem with it is it was delving deeper into being a "religious" thread. NO political or religious threads are allowed(other than what is being discussed, the "3 thread" idea). Sorry, I know you are all "big boys" and don't need to be told what you can and can't do. Maybe you don't see the problem with, oh I don't know, driving 90mph in a school zone, but that doesn't mean it's allowed.




Moderator objects.........
My style isn't to lock threads, I don't want locked or "dead" threads, so I will stick with my original offer. You can get as unruly as you want, it won't be around much anyways. The more unruly, the shorter the time. To me it's sort of like collecting "junk" anyways, if I save it or it stays around, eventually it just falls to the bottom of the heap anyways. WHO is going to benefit later from it anyways? It's different with a tech post. Right now if say there are a bunch of pre-election posts from several months ago, WHO goes back and looks at that junk? SAME for "what is the best lawnmower" threads or some other such trivial stuff. Keep things in perspective, WHO CARES 6 months from now about a political debate on OD? No one.

Gilly

Dear Mod in Cyberspace, hear my prayer I beseech thee.

Thy charges are a fractious and loutish bunch, unworthy of ownership of the chariots who's name bringeth us together in council. In cases rare and beautiful, widespread friendship and comity breaketh like morning sunrays, but it is in our nature not to maintain such brotherly or sisterly bonds.

Humor thy peasant throng. Allow them the illusion of honored conversation and smite them only on just provocation. They are energetic and inquisitive. They enjoy entering realms undrempt of by people of feint heart and low intellect, people we know to be worshippers of false gods: Beemers, Pugeot's and Fordites and all other classless chariots of minor art and incidental craft.

So I ask that thy heavy hand of iron descend not on questioners of things unseen; restrain thy mighty wrath from the souls who seek understanding of their leaders' visions; and let thy awsome face not be hardened against pursuit of ideas difficult and interesting.

Instead, dread lord, focus they anger and hate upon the perps themselves, those cretinous stooges who use invective and insult rather than reason to advance their causes, even if the cause is just. Smite them only, not those who dwell among ideas in general tolerance and restraint.

Thy will be done.

Bot

[GermanStar]

This thread seems to be taking a religious turn...

[MTI]

On behalf of all the devout agnostics and atheist . . . I register our deep offense.

[Cap'n Carageous]

Originally Posted by Gilly

Cap'n, I don't see a problem with Brian voicing his opinion, kinda hard to do that without using "I".

My decision in deleting the suicide thread wasn't truly because it was getting out of hand, if it were getting out of hand at an early point I would have deleted it right away. It was deleted because it was or was quickly becoming a religious thread. What I am offering is allowing 3 threads similar to the suicide thread(political or religious themed). With this new idea I probably would have left the suicide thread alone for maybe another 24-48 hours before deleting it. Maybe this makes my offer easier to understand. IF you or others still think it would be beneficial to lock a thread I am going to delete for a couple days, I can do that as long as there isn't an outcry on "why are you deleting this thread!!". As I pointed out, if it's kept civil it will stay longer, if everybody is bashing everybody else, lot's of yelling and flaming, it will won't last long, but in that case yes I could lock it and put a note on the end on why it got locked and deleted so fast.

Gilly

Actually my post was intended to exemplify another level. You, as supreme being of the forum make a rule. Someone second guesses you, then you second guess yourself and change the rule. This opens the door for those who would like to control the forum to step in and tell you how to run it. Next thing you know other liberties are taken until it's Benzworld all over.

[Cap'n Carageous]

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

It would be beneficial for all to see that a thread has exceeded the boundaries, and, hopefully, the decision will not be questioned.

I look forward to the change.

Thanks for your consideration.

Case in point. This one is already claiming victory.

[Brian Carlton]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Carageous

Case in point. This one is already claiming victory.

If I wasn't mistaken, Gilly shut you down once already. Think you can take a hint or does he need to be more clear to you?

And, you ought to look up the difference between "second guess" and "suggestion".

Furthermore, you clearly don't understand the difference between a "victory" and a "note of thanks".

[mzsmbs]

off the meds again cap'n? ... come on man.. why such crappy attitude?

seems you're the one bullying the mod unlike others here... !

[Gilly]

Cap'n, it DOES seem like you're the primary one with, shall we say, yer undies in a bundle over this. I'm still intent on doing this, and it wasn't really with any prodding. The thread that was deleted (suicide thread or whatever the hell it was) was kept fairly civil, it just wasn't keeping with the "rules" of no religious or political posts, and it did kind of bother me to arbitrarily delete it, but I felt to be fair that I had to. But to allow political/religious threads, I DO feel there has to be a limit, otherwise you are right, I am pretty sure it'll be Benzwhirlled cloning free-for-all bashing. MAYBE I'm wrong, MAYBE it can be increased later, if those participating in OD WANT this I'll need some cooperation and understanding. And knock off the thy Holy Savior crahp fer Petes sake. I'm not a God. I'm a Mod. There is a difference. EVER so slight, y'know, but a difference.
Now in reply to all the bickering back and forth between 3 or 4 of you, "Moderator Objects". "Great Mod Almighty" orders all to play well in the sandbox or be banished to BW.orgy.

Gilly