Funny, I thought you were the one missing the point..

It would take a lot of electrons to get fully into my objections to Bush's disdain for anything resembling vahrn-mentalism.

There is so much material there. It's late.

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Admirable religiosity.

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Dang, there's that cute cryptic - icism again.

Speaking of religion, while I'm a beginner at zen , there is an interesting concept therein I think I can describe. My teacher used to go on about the virtue of "doubt." Took me a while to get a clue where he was coming from on that one. From what I can gather, point is to hold in a cherished place of honor, in your mind, a subtle doubt about everything you think you know; to hold open the possibility that everything you think is true is in fact, not.

You may observe that this is advice I should really take to heart. Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.

BTW, above in post #273 towards the end, is a paragraph that describes some of my disbelief that you are even arguing against non-verbal communication. Starts with "..as for all the crap I'm getting..."

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I work in science. In my job and in my life I believe that all assumptions should be examined and tested. Nothing is sacred, everything is hypothetical and subject to negation.

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...except the invasion of Iraq, for which the end justifies any and all means.

Is that an attempt at humor or what?

A response in kind is not beneath me: Those who fail to see the necessity of deposing the Iraqi regime are either Islamist sympathizers or cowards.

Real funny, huh?

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Whoa, easy there big fella. Uno mass por favor: the Hydra Headed Beast legend is instructive. Was Saddam the author of all that was F ed up in Iraq or was he the manifestation of it? He was a serious bundle of danger all by himself, but the question is will his removal result in a quick replacement, only slightly more virulent?

It's like seeing a guy in a bar who's beating on his girlfriend. You step in and collar the guy only to be cold-cocked by the girlfriend, enabling the boyfriend to do damage to your prone form. It's tempting to do the brave thing but not always prudent. Far harder, and potentially more effective, is to somehow distract the boyfriend's attention with some new idea that gives him pause in his normal routine of abusing his ol' lady.

This idea is commonly derided as appeasement, another tired, worn out cliche. Nobody likes to be forced to do anything. There were many avenues open to engage common Iraqis in a gradual empowerment that could have eventually over-run Saddam. Instead, we enforced the assinine sanctions that punished the average person far more than Saddam and cronies. The sanctions did slow him down a bit but they were too broad of a club, and now in post war Iraq, we face the crippled infrastructure that sanctions only made worse and an angry populace. Even our Shi'ite allies hold us at arm's length.

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Mutually exclusive?

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I'm with cmac2012 on this....essentially 'cause HE'S RIGHT.
One thing I can't understand; and I mean this with all due respect; is how someone as sharp as you could be so misled by an administration of BS artists....I can only guess it's because the brainwashing started early in life, or it's just your blind support motivated by greed.

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"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

You have stated more than once that there is no price too high in blood and/or money to justify our invasion of Iraq.

I doubt I said anything quite like that.

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Loses meaning when not in context.

Note that mine was in response to the Germanstar's interesting post.

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Loses meaning when out of context as a response to Germanstar's post.

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No, it's because you're an idiot.

With all due respect.

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I don't think so. You assert that you follow only the most rigorous scientific methods. Yet you fall back on biased opinion over and over. Stop wiggling. Only makes it hurt more.

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