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mikemover · #1 09-28-2006, 08:42 PM

Government thugs handcuff children, kill dog during $60 marijuana raid.

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I want to share with you another recent, horrifying example of our government's war on marijuana users. Get ready to be outraged.

The following is an excerpt from a September 20 article in the Times Union in Albany, New York:

A police strike team raided a woman's Prospect Street apartment and handcuffed her children and killed her dog early Tuesday in a $60 pot bust. The woman called it excessive force and a case of mistaken identity, but officers said they stormed the home for a good reason: One of her sons was selling marijuana there.

The Police Department's tactical squad knocked down the front door of the upstairs apartment at 110 Prospect St. and flooded into the apartment shortly after 6 a.m.

"I heard a big boom. My first reaction was to jump out of bed. We were trying to find where our kids were at and all of a sudden we had guns in our faces," said 40-year-old Anita Woodyear, who rents the second-floor flat.

During the ensuing chaos, police handcuffed two of the woman's children, Elijah Bradley, 11, and 12-year-old Victoria Perez, and shot at her dog in the kitchen before killing it in the bathroom, Woodyear said.

"That seems like an awful lot of firepower for marijuana," said Fred Clark of the Schenectady chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "That's like spending $125,000 for $5."

Woodyear said she suspected police had intended to search a neighboring home, but had the wrong address on the search warrant. Neighbors said they suspect illicit drugs are dealt at other homes on the block.

"No apology, no 'sorry about your dog'," she said.

But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said.

In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. "We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target," said Assistant Chief Michael Seber.

Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood?

No one wins — except perhaps for the Gestapo-esque government thugs who get jacked up on the adrenaline rush that comes from threatening and persecuting others.

We have to stop this madness. We have to change the laws so that government thugs no longer have the legal authority to kick in people's doors to find marijuana.

If you're as outraged by the above story as I am, please turn your anger into action by spreading the word about how ridiculous, wasteful, ineffective, expensive, and violent our government's "War on Drugs" really is.

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INFURIATING.

If they had shown up with no warning or warrant, kicked in my door, and SHOT MY DOG, I would now be either dead or in prison, because I would have shot every single one of those mother f*ckers.

Mike

mzsmbs · #2 09-28-2006, 08:54 PM

how lefty of you mike.

j/k

that's freaking terrible, i think i'd be in the same boat as you describe.

waybomb · #3 09-28-2006, 09:22 PM

Don't commit or aid crimes, and this probably won't happen to you.

It's all the cops' fault that this all happened, correct?

Or, how about, none of this would have happened had the 18 year old been brought up correctly? Must be a nice home atmosphere for the kids, living with a punk pusher and an essentially absent mother. Maybe the kids were doing it too? I'm sure they'll grow up to do the same exact thing.

This type of thing should happen more often. Then maybe all the drug related crime would diminish.

I'm outraged the 18 year old punk dealer wasn't there to resist, or if he was there, that he did not resist, so he could get shot dead as well. Everybody wins when a pusher is wiped out.

kamil · #4 09-28-2006, 09:25 PM

They don't use this saying for nothing....."Drugs Kill"

Botnst · #5 09-28-2006, 09:27 PM

Burning that evil devilweed should result in capital punishment. I've heard that stuff will make grown men sit on their butts and listen to loud music while performing unnatural acts on a refrigerator. Else why do you think they call it reefer?

Yeah buddy, think of the damage marijuana does. Think about it.

B

450slcguy · #6 09-28-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by waybomb

Don't commit or aid crimes, and this probably won't happen to you.

It's all the cops' fault that this all happened, correct?

Or, how about, none of this would have happened had the 18 year old been brought up correctly? Must be a nice home atmosphere for the kids, living with a punk pusher and an essentially absent mother. Maybe the kids were doing it too? I'm sure they'll grow up to do the same exact thing.

This type of thing should happen more often. Then maybe all the drug related crime would diminish.

I'm outraged the 18 year old punk dealer wasn't there to resist, or if he was there, that he did not resist, so he could get shot dead as well. Everybody wins when a pusher is wiped out.

Yea, and maybe they should also start brutalizing people sitting on a bar stool drinking their beer, that would be effective in ridding drunk drivers off our streets. Oh no, wait, I forgot, alcohol is a legal intoxicant sold in public all over this country, at any roadside stop of your choice. Can't be any danger in that.

Brutality is just what this country needs to deal with petty crime and rid our society of these dangerous people.

waybomb · #7 09-28-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy

Yea, and maybe they should also start brutalizing people sitting on a bar stool drinking their beer, that would be effective in ridding drunk drivers off our streets. Oh no, wait, I forgot. Alcohol is a legal intoxicant sold in public all over this country, at any roadside stop of your choice.

Brutality is just what this country needs to deal with petty crime.

What does alcohol have to do with this? As you say - it is legal.

And, a petty crime to you may not be a petty crime to me. Seems like an aweful lot of crimes are related to selling, using, buying, and supporting the habit of ILLEGAL drug use. The net effect on society is huge. That's not petty in my book. I am for no tolerance when it comes to illegal drugs.

I do not consider killing an uncontrolled dog and handcuffing little combative brats "brutality". Maybe you do. Sometimes I wish someone would handcuff all the uncontrolled brats in public.

I go back to - none of this would have happened had the mother raised the kid right in the first place. Or, having failed there, kick the punk out.

Botnst · #8 09-28-2006, 10:38 PM

Why is it the government's business what we choose, of our own free will and at our own expense, to ingest?

Who owns your body, you or the government?

B

John Doe · #9 09-28-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by waybomb

What does alcohol have to do with this? As you say - it is legal.

And, a petty crime to you may not be a petty crime to me. Seems like an aweful lot of crimes are related to selling, using, buying, and supporting the habit of ILLEGAL drug use. The net effect on society is huge. That's not petty in my book. I am for no tolerance when it comes to illegal drugs.

I do not consider killing an uncontrolled dog and handcuffing little combative brats "brutality". Maybe you do. Sometimes I wish someone would handcuff all the uncontrolled brats in public.

I go back to - none of this would have happened had the mother raised the kid right in the first place. Or, having failed there, kick the punk out.

Uhh, where did you read that the 11 & 12 year old were being combative brats? Where did you read that the dog was uncontrollable?

Sorry, but possession of those amounts of pot is a misdemeanor, in other words, a petty crime by definition. They said the 18 yo was selling, but that is just an allegation, isn't it?

The police intimate that they had probable cause, and that is enough to justify what they did, before a conviction is handed down?

Hope the Constitution is there for you, if and when you need it.

gdemoss01 · #10 09-28-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy

Yea, and maybe they should also start brutalizing people sitting on a bar stool drinking their beer, that would be effective in ridding drunk drivers off our streets. Oh no, wait, I forgot. Alcohol is a legal intoxicant sold in public all over this country, at any roadside stop of your choice. Can't be any danger in that.

Brutality is just what this country needs to deal with petty crime and rid our society of these danderous people.

Not long ago the Texas Dept of Public Safety was going into bars and arresting people before they had a chance to drive anywhere. What was even more absurd was they were arresting them in hotel bars where they had a room and did not intend to drive ANYWHERE.

After the public outcry, I'm not sure they still are performing such feats of keeping us all safe.

John Doe · #11 09-28-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by waybomb

What does alcohol have to do with this? As you say - it is legal.
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You ever been to the South? There are a lot of places where it is illegal. Do you think these tactics would be warranted for some guy who was visiting his cousins and brought in a six pack of beer?

450slcguy · #12 09-28-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Why is it the government's business what we choose, of our own free will and at our own expense, to ingest?

Who owns your body, you or the government?

B

Apparently the Goverment and waybomb think they do, and their willing to beat you senseless if you disagree.

gdemoss01 · #13 09-28-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Why is it the government's business what we choose, of our own free will and at our own expense, to ingest?

Who owns your body, you or the government?

B

Didn't you know that the guv'ment owns your body? What part of the Constitution have yoiu NOT been reading? It has certainly claimed ownership of women from the beginning. Insofar as what you ingest, anything was perfectly legal until the beginning of the 20th century (circa 1910 or so). if you could smoke it, chew it or swallow it, it was your business.

It was, I think on of Teddy Roosevelt's less shining moments when those laws were passed.

Snibble · #14 09-28-2006, 11:15 PM

Nothing surprising here. Classic case of gun-ho cops who are itching for some action and waiting for any excuse to do so.

Matt L · #15 09-28-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by waybomb

What does alcohol have to do with this? As you say - it is legal.

When alcohol was illegal, it was still sold. Who made the money then, and what was it used for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by waybomb

And, a petty crime to you may not be a petty crime to me. Seems like an aweful lot of crimes are related to selling, using, buying, and supporting the habit of ILLEGAL drug use. The net effect on society is huge. That's not petty in my book. I am for no tolerance when it comes to illegal drugs.

There's that pesky question again. Do drugs feed crime because they're bad, or because they're illegal? These days, when you buy a beer, it doesn't buy bullets for a thug. There was a dark decade in our history when it did. There's been a dark six decades where marijuana money buys bullets for thugs.

Don't blame the plant. Blame the politicians.