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Old 01-10-2007, 03:39 PM
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Oh, you'll have that gadget by years end I'd put my Chihuaua onit.
Care to take a drive down to the Gadgeteria with me, Mistress?

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Old 01-10-2007, 04:50 PM
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Compared to my Razr, this thing looks like a brick. I don't know if I could go back to 1991-size pocket cellphones after living with StarTacs and Razrs for the better part of a decade.

Pricey little devil too. I fondly recall when I was the first on the block with a deluxe analog StarTac, complete with all accessories, for the bargain price of $699. Six months later, you could buy two for that price.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:00 PM
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Well I like my iPaq Windows Mobile phone.

No real complaints.

Cingular does have an unlimited data plan, but it is pricey (40/month I think).

Finally, My XP system has been flawless for ages now.
Video driver causes some minor issue's, but a reboot cures that.
I have 2 NVidia cards, with 4 monitors. Soon to be 3 cards and 6 monitors, try that with a Mac.

2meg ram, and run Virtual PC and/or VMWare at various times.
I'll have 4 or five XP machines running at once, sometimes a Linux image or two as well.

I do abuse my workstation, installing, testing, and uninstalling a lot of software. So I do some testing in a VM, neat technology.
Yet I don't have any issue's, and don't spend a lot of time doing Msft updates.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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Well I like my iPaq Windows Mobile phone.

No real complaints.

Cingular does have an unlimited data plan, but it is pricey (40/month I think).
40$ sounds decent to me. I wonder how many minutes they would include 500 is enough for me. That and unlimited texting would rock.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:43 PM
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Now that we are on the subject of mobile phones, I wanna get a real goo dbluetooth earpiece that I won't have to replace every two months.

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I have been using the latest greatest Moto and like it. YMMV

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Old 01-10-2007, 11:08 PM
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The nice thing about the Razzor is it fits so nicely in my pocket. I hate those belt clips for the phones, actualy thats why I bought a Razzor!
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:05 AM
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Cisco sues Apple over use of iPhone name

AP [ THURSDAY, JANUARY 11, 2007 01:11:19 PM]

SAN FRANCISCO: Apple Inc's much-ballyhooed iPhone was unveiled this week after 30 months and millions of dollars in top-secret development. But the sleek new iPod-cellular phone combination could wind up costing the company a lot more.

Cisco Systems Inc., the world's largest networking equipment maker, sued Apple in San Francisco federal court on Wednesday, claiming that Apple's iPhone violates its trademark.

Cisco is asking the court to forbid Apple from using the name "iPhone," which Cisco has held a trademark on since 2000 and used to brand a line of its own Internet-enabled phones that began shipping last spring and officially launched three weeks ago.

Cisco said Apple approached the company several years ago seeking to use the name, and the two Silicon Valley tech giants have been negotiating ever since to hammer out a licensing agreement.

But Cisco said the talks broke down just hours before Apple's chief executive, Steve Jobs, took to the stage Tuesday at the annual Macworld Conference and Expo to introduce the multimedia device.

Apple's iPhone is a touch-screen-controlled cellphone device that plays music, surfs the Web and delivers voicemail and e-mail. The product still needs FCC approval.

While Jobs was holding court in front of thousands of Apple devotees, Cisco had given Apple lawyers until the end of the business day to finalize the contract.

The deadline came and went, and Cisco filed the lawsuit Wednesday seeking injunctive relief to prevent Apple from copying Cisco's iPhone trademark.

"We certainly expected that since they had gone ahead and announced a product without receiving permission to use the brand, that meant that the negotiation was concluded," said Mark Chandler, Cisco senior vice president and general counsel.

Apple argues it's entitled to use the name iPhone because the products are materially different.

Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris called Cisco's lawsuit "silly" and said there are already several other companies using the name iPhone for products like Cisco's that use the increasingly popular Voice over Internet Protocol, or VoIP.

"We believe that Cisco's US trademark registration is tenuous at best," she said. "Apple's the first company to use the iPhone name for a cell phone. And if Cisco wants to challenge us on it, we're very confident we will prevail."

Cisco executives argue that, despite the current dissimilarities between the Cisco and Apple iPhone, both phones could take on new features or work on different networks than they do today.

Erik Suppiger, networking specialist at Pacific Growth Equities, said that argument is sound in an era of "convergence," when the Internet is increasingly used as a telephone network.

"I'd envision that Cisco would be inclined to add cellular functionality to its iPhone. I would not be surprised to see them add additional memory for supporting whatever media functions you might want, either — they'd be logical extensions," Suppiger said. "The phones may not overlap right now, but they would over the foreseeable future."

The lawsuit may be more than just a semantic scuffle. Cisco has been on an aggressive acquisition binge in the past year, and CEO John Chambers has been ambitious about building the company's brand name and producing more consumer electronics — not just the esoteric networking gear that chief information officers purchased at great expense.

The lawsuit could be an attempt to embroil Apple into a legal morass because Cisco is set on developing a competing product, said Eve Griliches, program manager at Framingham, Mass.-based research firm IDC.

"Cisco is a very, very smart company, and anything they can do to slow Apple out of the gate might give them an advantage at the negotiating table," Griliches said. "Chances are both companies knew this lawsuit was going to happen — the real question is, what's really behind it?"

But not everyone agrees that the lawsuit is strategic or even productive for Cisco, the most richly valued company in Silicon Valley with a market capitalization of more than $174 billion.

"Bottom line is that you'd think Cisco had a better use of its time and money than suing Apple over a word," said Samuel Wilson, analyst at JMP Securities.

Before the lawsuit was announced, Apple's shares closed up $4.43 to $97 during regular trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market. Apple shares fell 40 cents to $96.60 in after-hours trading.

Cisco's shares closed up 21 cents to $28.68 on the Nasdaq Stock Market. In after-hours trading, Cisco shares gained 9 cents to $28.77.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:46 AM
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Excellent summary kknudson.
I am sick of Mac people's attitude, whenever someone poses a Windows question here, invariably some pretentious "genious" feels the need to offer a real helpful advice, like "Why don't you get a Mac?". Mac has its advantages, none that would me make switch over to a machine where I can't add or exchange components and or peripherals from the vendor of my choice, at my convenience. No way in hell will I be locked in with one hardware manufacturer. Screw Jobs and his business model.
A few years ago Apple almost went bankrupt because of its proprietary hardware.
I run XP/SP2 with 2g memory on a 17" Toshiba Satellite, use Firefox and have/had no problems, no viruses, worms, etc, even though it is connected to the Net 24/7.
I reboot maybe once or twice a month, it runs along just fine.

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Misinformation.

I have NEVER had any trouble finding and/or adding any peripherals or software to my Mac. And I have done so many, many times. And they DON'T have to be made by Apple. The myth that everything is Apple-proprietary is just that: Myth.

In fact, the ONLY thing I recall having purchased that is an Apple product, other than the computer itself, is a new keyboard--Not because it was my only option, but because I liked the clear/white aesthetics of the Apple model.

Adding peripherals to a Mac could not be easier. There is no "sweet talking" it into working, as I have experienced with Windows machines SO many times... Installing a new video card on my mother's brand new PC a few weeks ago was a 1 1/2-day long nightmare! Ditto for the last time I had to install a sound car for her, a year or so ago on her old computer. Ditto for the printer problems I helped a friend with the other day. Ditto for the USB 2 card I helped someone install in his Compaq last month....

When I get a new piece of hardware, I plug it into my Mac and it WORKS. Period. That's it. No struggle, no driver conflicts, no rebooting two dozen times, no dealing with MS-DOS, no "please wait while windows is unable to find the software for your new hardware" messages, no calling customer support, no headaches of any kind.

With VERY few exceptions, any software worth owning that is available for PC is available for Mac nowadays.

Hell, for those who just absolutely, positively can't live without Windows for some insane reason, you can easily run Mac OSX AND Windows on the newest Intel-based Macs!

Speaking of OSX... Although it is LINUX-based, it is NOT "nerd-oriented" like the many versions of LINUX/UNIX are... You don't have to be a programmer or know any mysterious language or secrets to use a Mac. OSX is AT LEAST as user-friendly and low-maintenance as the Windows interface... in fact, it is MORESO in many ways: I don't have to spend time updating my virus software once or twice a week and running virus scans. I don't have to worry about defragmenting my hard drive all the time. I don't have to reboot periodically to cure mysterious glitches and quirks (In fact, I can't even REMEMBER that last time I turned my Mac off!)...

So when someone comes around wondering what to do about their Poltergeist-infested PC (which is inevitable).... My answer will ALWAYS be "Get a Mac."

I am not trying to be elitist, it is just a fact.

After spending VERY EXTENSIVE time using both, I have found that Macs are simpler, easier to use, more stable, more reliable... superior in almost every way.

Sorry if the truth ruffles some feathers. It is hardly the first time.


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Old 01-11-2007, 10:07 AM
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Exactly Mike, I used to rag on Apple's until I had the opportunity for an extended demo. It is not talked about much but Apple real strong point is the easy addition of peripherals and especially networking tasks.

I am not a fanboy if Windows was better I would use it but for now its Apple.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:46 PM
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I use Winders at work. It works, and somebody else pays for it.

At home I use Macs. They work and I pay.

If Winders stops *****-slapping me I'll buy one for home use.
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:34 PM
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I for one am deeply grateful for this new breakthrough product from Apple. I've been concerned for some time now that our youth have been unable to get access to the sort of like, hot tunes, man, that they desperately need to compete in today's world.

If our youth have a shortage of music stored on their portable devices, why, the consequences are just too horrible to contemplate. Only by having mass, mega hot jams at our disposal will we finally be able to bury all this 'hippies playing guitars and singing' crap.

Further, any bottlenecks at downloading ringtones will hopefully be alleviated by this device, freeing up all sorts of productive energies for our nation's economy.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:44 PM
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:09 PM
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:49 AM
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Hope it has spell-check.
Oh dear, as I suspected, I did indeed misspell one word in my missive. Alleviated gets two "Ls." Oh, woe is me.
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