Has the right wing view of abortion gone totally loony? - Page 16 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

aklim · #**226** 06-20-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by suginami

You act as if the fetus doesn't exist and has no rights.

Only those on the Left can believe that the human fetus carried by a woman is "her body." A woman's teeth, breasts, legs, hair -- all these are her body. But the human fetus is another's body.

It does exist otherwise there would be no arguments. As to rights, it has to prove it is more alive than the doorknob I just turned.

Agreed. However, the fetus is residing in the female's body. She, for whatever her reasons, has decided to stop playing host. It is her body and therefore her right to decide when to host it. When I have sex with a woman, it is her body I am entering. As such, at ANY moment, she can say "STOP" and I have to leave.

GottaDiesel · #**227** 06-20-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

But some people will see it as their mission in life to force you not to be able to have one because they see it as wrong.

Agreed, if they feel it is wrong, I won't force them to do or not do it. Fair enough?

GottaDiesel · #**228** 06-20-2007, 11:26 PM

If I thought MedMech/Howi could actually ANSWER a question (notice how he doesn't like to do that)

-- I'd love to ask what his thoughts are on masturbation -- after all -- that sperm is living and can produce life if not "spilled".

aklim · #**229** 06-20-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel

Agreed, if they feel it is wrong, I won't force them to do or not do it. Fair enough?

Not good enough. If they feel it is wrong, you will damn well not do it whether it affects them or not. If they feel it is affecting them you stop because they will go to hell for it or some thing like that.

Matt SD300 · #**230** 06-21-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Patient comes into the ER. Doc declares the patient dead. What are the tests the Doc uses. Apply it to the fetus. If the fetus passes the test, it is alive and should not be murdered, killed or whatever you call it. If it fails the test, it is not alive and you can do as you wish.

Logics retarded cousin..............

So...your saying a Fetus is DEAD???? ................

Kindergarten level of understanding:...If a seed grows a sprout is it alive or dead?....of coarse it is alive!!....

You reject even the most BASIC LOGIC..... therefore you are a FOOL.........

FlossHogg · #**231** 06-21-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel

If I thought MedMech/Howi could actually ANSWER a question (notice how he doesn't like to do that)

-- I'd love to ask what his thoughts are on masturbation -- after all -- that sperm is living and can produce life if not "spilled".

Actually, sperm is a gamete and lacks the other 23 chromosomes needed to make a living creature. Sperm is merely a nano machine really kind of like a ty fighter. An egg would be like the death star. And chewbacca....well he's just a Wookie.

Matt SD300 · #**232** 06-21-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel

And where do you stand on the Death Penalty?

The Holy Bible.... nor do I have problem with it............

Gurkha · #**233** 06-21-2007, 02:11 AM

So I would guess it doesn't apply to those who don't follow the Bible?

aklim · #**234** 06-21-2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Logics retarded cousin..............

So...your saying a Fetus is DEAD???? ................

Kindergarten level of understanding:...If a seed grows a sprout is it alive or dead?....of coarse it is alive!!....

You reject even the most BASIC LOGIC..... therefore you are a FOOL.........

It is a test good enough to determine if they need to go further to keep you alive or send you to the morgue so I feel, it is good enough to apply to the fetus. Sorry it doesn't meet with your approval. Missed the apostrophe in "Logics", BTW.

IIRC, human reproduction is a wee bit more complex than plant reproduction. What plant has a CNS as developed as that found in human being? Is the fetus living tissue? Yes. However, so is the cancer cells in the human body. Cell division still continues in the body even if the brain is damaged enough where it is kept "alive" only by machines. What definition of "alive" are you using? "coarse" as in rough or what?

If rejection of YOUR logic deems me a fool in YOUR eyes with you as the opposite of fool, I am glad to be a fool by your judgment since I don't consider your opinion or yourself in any esteem whatsoever. If Albert Einstein calls me a fool, it might be wise to take stock of my situation. If some medieval peasant, whose greatest achievement is to parrot what some guy told him some book said and is barely able to read the book himself because of a lack of command of the language calls me a fool, well, what is that phrase again? Mind over matter. I don't mind because he doesn't matter. Just trying to determine the weight of the judge of foolishness.

Botnst · #**235** 06-21-2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FlossHogg

Actually, sperm is a gamete and lacks the other 23 chromosomes needed to make a living creature. Sperm is merely a nano machine really kind of like a ty fighter. An egg would be like the death star. And chewbacca....well he's just a Wookie.

Actually, normal sperm have 23 chromosomes.