As far as I have seen, it lies with other muslims.

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True, but then thats the case with all organized religion where one is told that its the only way.

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I don't deny that there are plenty of nasty people spreading mayhem in service of the Allah they think they know about.

My point is that being in their shoes, it would be easy to believe that the U S of A is more aggressive and more murderous than their own comrades.

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Yeah, because that the type of prooaganda their liberal biased media outlets based in the Berkley of Baghdad puts out.

What do you know about the privileged class and reality in India? I hope it's more than just a few articles you've read.

Funny how these things exactly correlate to policies in the US. Abolishing the poor (ie taking their space and developing it into high class neighborhoods), trickle down theory is a staple of Republican policy, urban development, and finally labor exploitation - in the past robber baron style and currently exploiting the illegal immigrant.



Surely you can't be serious. The Brits controlled us for 170 years. You can't be that ignorant of history. There was a time when 'the sun never sets on the British Empire'.
As for why they were unable to throw off the Brits, well let's look at the US and India. The founding fathers were not native people, lived in a resource rich land, had European support and equivalent weapons technology, and revolted before the Industrial Revolution. India on the other hand had a native population, no outside support, were not rich on vast resources, had inferior weapons technology, and most importantly were under British control before the Industrial Revolution. If you don't understand how a colonizing power can control the destiny of its colony by controlling industrial production, there's not much point in going any further.

While you so conveniently ignored Gurkha's acknowledgement of India's problems, there's a big difference between blame and understanding the causes of the current situation.
India is more than 100 years behind America in industrial production, in large part due to the occupation of the British. If you want to sit here and compare a country less than 100 years in control of its own destiny to a country that has had 300 years of control, control of its industry, 1/3rd the population, extreme richness of natural resources, and conclude that, 'Ha! We're better and you suck,' then it's hardly a surprise that America doesn't have a great reputation around the world. Be prepared though, because India, and China, are going to go through the growing pains the US already has. Combined with the terrible mistakes the US has made as the world's hyperpower, it may be a very different world in 50 years.

You're going to have to wait at least 10 more posts before questioning my loyalty because I'm half white.

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This is an extremely absurd and nonsensical term.




As for the Muslim moderates issue, I too have asked myself where they are. I think in large part it's cultural - they aren't going to go against the teachings of authorities. Part is also that undaunted assertion of America's rightness that doesn't jibe with some of our actions, which makes it hard to disagree. Mostly though, I think it's lack of leadership.

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How many shots are available of an Arab army kicking down Christian doors? Of frisking Christian westerners in their own country? Not to mention any Arab version of committing an Abu Gharib on Christians. Al Jazeera doesn't have to look too hard to find material that Arab audiences drink up.

To our detriment.

Sorry dude, that's not propaganda, it's fact.

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Very true............

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7356039/

Some reading for those who have bias and prejudiced view on India or China, sadly don't think they would have the depth or the inclination to read through this as their mind is poisoned to an extent beyond reproach.

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No **** sherlock--if you are going to post on an American website, why don't you brush up on sarcasm.

I have absolutely no bias towards India--maybe a little towards China. I have a bias against USA bashing by people who do so because they haven't been able to succeed in the system.

Yeah, 'cause sarcasm reads so easily on the internet.
Glad to hear you don't believe the BS 'liberal media' catchphrase.

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Looks like you now have the hang of it.
Thank you for believing in my not believing.

You may not but there are plenty of others who live in the dark ages when it comes to facts concerning India and China as evidenced by this thread and others, its for them, I am not envious of China, I salute and admire them, I would rather India follow China in many ways, as a matter of fact, now they have begun to do so, they should have done that on the population front, India would have been the most happening place on the globe then.

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I am not envious of anyone. While I have no bias against India and some against China--I say as a nationality (not in a humanitarian vein) screw them both and everyone else--USA is No. 1 in my little world, and if someone can spot 'global trends' and bourgeoning markets for the next 50 years--well,act on it--theorists don't seem to pay the bills where I live.

I get sick of hearing we are going to be speaking Chinese in 20 years, cmac thinks we should model ourselves after some commune in Argentina (poetic license there c) and the like--bull****--every indication I have (and I do get to travel so don't go there) is that there is no standard of living anywhere else as high as ours. And if I am wrong, then I sure must be a simpleton because I don't have much to complain about and my friend in Bhopal would sell his kidneys to come here.