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Old 10-03-2007, 11:11 PM
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Mediamatters is in fact an interesting operation. It is obvious by their reaction to it that the Right Wing Media Machine find it extremely dangerous. The "George Soros" claim has no proof and is routinely denied by the site, if you have some, you should post it to elucidate this conspiracy for us un-initiates. ....
What happened to MediaMatters? You seem to have drifted into The Zone.

Of course I have no proof, just the usual rumor mills. So what? I don't give a brown poopie if it is run by Georg Soros or James T Kirk. It is as unfair and unbalanced a source as one could hope for, if one is in search of inflammatory and defamatory effluvium with which to baste an opposing turkey.

Take for example this whole Limbaugh imbroglio. They assert as fact, that which is actually a supposition, and get a lot of play in the media. I think it is because they have such a wonderfully lofty sounding name and their self-description on their website is thoroughly innocuous. That is a marvelously executed operation of which James Dobson probably stews in envy.

Just as Limbaugh cannot lose by all of this attention, neither can MediaMatters. Both play to their natural constituency and both will gain audience and funding because there appaers to be a ceaseless stream of dupes and suckers who place inordinate value on opinions of others. They are the ones who fall for Nigerian scams, too, I'll bet.

F**k'em one and all.

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:25 PM
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:27 PM
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Read the stuff and follow the trajectory. Usually starts rational and then goes into a collapsing hyperbolic orbit around planet weird.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:30 PM
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(A)Mr. Limbaugh is hardly a "private citizen", in fact he would never fit the legal definition of one. He is in fact the leader of a large faction of the GOP, a man who has daily access to some fifteen million or so voters. Mr. Limbaugh, with his constant diatribes whose aim is to demonize and discredit anyone who disagrees with him, (B)has made himself a legitimate target of those for whom he creates demeaning nicknames and other schoolyard teasing that seem to go over well with his churlish audience. I rather enjoy seeing them get their licks in on this particular tormentor, who seems to get a free pass for committing many of the same sins "liberals" are excoriated for by he and his clonish sidekick, the holy Mr. Hannity.
(A)Please

(B)He is a entertainer, he does not report the news....That was Dan Rather's job.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:31 PM
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What is a "clon"?
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:33 PM
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Read the stuff and follow the trajectory. Usually starts rational and then goes into a collapsing hyperbolic orbit around planet weird.
Bingo... just no vulgar language, yet.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:48 PM
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He just left rehab. Wait until he catches a whiff. He'll go into the zone like the Frahnkensteen's monster followed the ethereal violin music.
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What is a "clon"?
I think it refers to an abbreviated term meaning French Klingon; hence the spelling with a "c".

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Old 10-04-2007, 12:40 AM
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I love google (not really). It's amazing what pops up with simple searches:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3680327.stm

Evidently is doesn't just happen here.
I'm not surprised that lies are told. We also have surveillance video shots of Brits roughing up a group of young Iraqi youths for no apparent good reason and we know that Abu Gharib was not a fake.

The film of the security contractors firing at vehicles randomly (the well known one with the rock n roll soundtrack) is of unclear origin but we have it on good authority that Blackwater regularly fires from moving vehicles and does not stop to check on results. Of course, it would be dangerous to do so but that fact is unlikely to persuade Iraqis to appreciate the good men from Blackwater.

Wouldn't it be nice if proven sham videos could wash away real sins?
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:46 AM
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I find this controversy frankly amazing.
Look at Rush's history over 18 years of broadcasting. He supports the troops at every turn. He donates much $, and fund raises more all to support the troops. The troops know this and love him; they send him mementos to show their appreciation.

Sen Harry Reid, OTH has defamed the troops repeatedly.

Forget the transcript; look at his life's history. You KNOW what he meant.
What, you didn't see this latest thing where he dissed the wounded vet -- well documented vet -- who said he's against the war, doesn't appreciate Limbaugh's remarks etc. and Limbaugh said "This is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said and then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media and a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into."

Rush supports the troops that play his game. Period.

Many hits on that story:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=limbaugh+suicide+bomber+vet&fr=yfp-t-307&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:47 AM
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I find Mr. Limbaugh an example of what is wrong with the GOP today. He has engaged in criminal activity in the past, he has admitted it himself, yet posters here call him "honest". He claims to support the social values of the GOP, yet his personal life is one of serial marriage. His other hypocrisy, railing against drug abusers while abusing one of the most powerful narcotics available, also seems lost on his supporters, and here again we have an accusation that his "support" of troops is also hypocritically hinged on their political beliefs, and yet they howl in disbelief and buy this man's rather flawed explanation that what he said was not what he said. Most rational people know that the most obvious explanation is probably the truth. The man is a well-known hypocrite. His "support" of the troops is also obviously hypocritical, the truth is "the troops" are ok as long as they support his party's failure of a war. One would expect no less of Mr. Limbaugh.
Oh come on, he would have served in Vietnam but he had a really painful ingrown anal hair.
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I'm not surprised that lies are told. We also have surveillance video shots of Brits roughing up a group of young Iraqi youths for no apparent good reason and we know that Abu Gharib was not a fake.

The film of the security contractors firing at vehicles randomly (the well known one with the rock n roll soundtrack) is of unclear origin but we have it on good authority that Blackwater regularly fires from moving vehicles and does not stop to check on results. Of course, it would be dangerous to do so but that fact is unlikely to persuade Iraqis to appreciate the good men from Blackwater.

Wouldn't it be nice if proven sham videos could wash away real sins?
See Kerry-Vietnam (actually, taser guy) thread in which it is given that armies are made of people and any population of people will commit crimes. Just because you live in Berkeley I don't automatically assume that you're a murdering rapist even though you have a violent crime rate of almost 60/100000 there. Thus I think it proper to not assume that because some soldiers commit crimes that all soldiers are criminals. This is evidently what the phony soldiers and their sycophants are trying to prove.

I don't wish you or anyone to take the above as any excuse for a soldier who commits a crime. They should be punished to the full extent.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:00 AM
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See WWII thread in which it is given that armies are made of people and any population of people will commit crimes. Just because you live in Berkeley I don't automatically assume that you're a murdering rapist even though you have a violent crime rate of almost 60/100000 there. Thus I think it proper to not assume that because some soldiers commit crimes that all soldiers are criminals. This is evidently what the phony soldiers and their sycophants are trying to prove.

I don't wish you or anyone to take the above as any excuse for a soldier who commits a crime. They should be punished to the full extent.
Puh-lease, if there are people out there who believe that all soldiers are criminals, they will be rightly marginalized soon enough. Only a fool would believe that. Conversely, to believe that our guys are somehow too noble to ever engage in untoward activity with Iraqis is equally inane.

We often hear about how Blackwater guys are former military, trained to highest standards, etc. Still, we have the BW guy who got drunk and shot and killed the Iraqi VP's bodyguard for sport according to the accounts I've read. He was rushed out of the country and faced no charges.

It's outta control over there dude. Face it.
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Blackwater contractors are soldiers? I'm sorry, I missed that memo.

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