That is nonsense. Someone sounds pretty lazy and uninformed

There are VERY clearly defined routes and structures that are within the INS to legalise marriages performed between a US citizen and a non citizen.

He should have checked it FIRST.

One way is go for the K-1 fiancee visa, which allows a 90 day time envelope in which the foreigner is admitted to the USA for the specific purpose to get married in the United States, followed by a time frame of about 2-3 years of living legally with a provisional legal residence card. (Temporary "green card" in effect)

You need to pay attention to the rules. For example, anyone in the USA on a 90 day K-1 Visa may NOT leave and re enter the USA while there on the K-1 Visa. It was issued for ONE ENTRY only, and that is that.

The American needs to show proof the person he/she will marry will NOT be a burden to the US taxpayers, submit tax records and other evidence, proof of income and the like.

The foreigner needs to be examined at the US embassy in their country, for general health, TB, venereal diseases and other things by a MD.

At the end of that 2-3 year time, there is another interview with the INS required, to make sure it was not a sham or fraudulent marriage (PLENTY of those).

At the desk of the INS officer interviewing, there is a video camera aimed at the applicants. If they give suspicious answers to questions, the INS officer can start running the camera whenever he wants.

If no fraud is detected, normally provisional legal residence then becomes permanent legal residence.




The other way, is if the marriage was performed between the US citizen and the foreign national in the country which is outside the USA.

In those cases, the US citizen MUST come home alone, while the process starts to bring the new spouse home to the USA legally.

It is somewhat different. Often it takes about a year or so.


But the process exists. It is there, and exists to be used. IF you pay attention, and follow the rules, you can get through it, usually without even an attorney needing to be employed by you.

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1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

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The Mexixans and central americans are not the only ones.

There are plenty of haitians, cubans, chinese, etc.... that perform manual labor.

I hire guys that sit around the home depot now and again and for 100.00, they will work their asses off.

Is there any particular reason why is seems like it's only hispanics?

I never see any blacks or whites sitting there waiting to get picked up.

Can anyone point to a specific reason why it is mostly central american or mexican or are they they flavor of the moment.

Seems to me that this country was built on immigrant labor. Were all those Italian and Irish laborers legal? or were they just the "right" color and no one complained as much?

My parents were cuban and I live in Miami and I can tell you that there are a great many that get here, legally or not, and will not THINK of doing what these other people are willing to do.

I'm making observations, not accusations.

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Simple...the non-Hispanic population comprise of native Americans who are already dulled by the riches this country offers...including government handouts.

Folks who risked the dangerous and desperate trek into this country are grateful for the opportunity to better themselves immensely!

Wait a couple of generations when they are assimilated into the system and are accustomed to the freedoms and benefits this country has to offer. Then there will be a proportionate amount of Hispanics who will fall into the same category as the Black and White groups of individuals who feel that manual labor is beneath their dignity...

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Jim;

X2
You’re dead on, there.
If you ask and not guess...
If you do what they say...
It's really quick and easy.
(no lawyer required for us)

Thanks for the flash-backs!!

Sincerely;
Me and my “Originally British” wife.

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wow, a visa? that's brilliant, i can't imagine why he didn't just do that! if you wouldn't mind, could you call the ins and tell them how simple it is to legally bring someone into the country, i don't think they know?

1. Form I-129F
2. Form I-765
3. Passport
4. Birth certificate
5. Police certificate from all places lived since age 16
6. Form I-134
7. Form DS-156 prepared in duplicate
8. Form DS-156K
9. Form I-485
10. Form I-864

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_2994.html

as i stated, many of these forms require control numbers obtained from previous forms to be submitted and therefore cannot be submitted all at once. additionally, in case you were too "lazy and uninformed" to check, the current backlog at ins is years in many cases. forgive me for linking to fox news, but:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Nov20/0,4670,ImmigrationSuffocatingInPaper,00.html

what a joke! you can't compare emigrating from britain (or most of western europe). ever heard of a visa waiver program (vwp)? sure, you still need to apply for permanent status, but we have had a back door agreement with them for a while. of course it was quick and easy.

http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/visa/niv/vwp.html

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WOW! Too many forms for you, hunh?

Hey, listen, I am NOT your research beeyotch, I will NOT call the INS for you.

Do it yourself, or better yet, have your friend that married the Romanian go and do it, it is his beef, not yours, anyhow.

From what I recall - it was over 15 years ago I went through all of it, there is an I-92 form missing, from your list. That one was REAL important.

Also you need to know for the VISA whether you want 'PERMISSION TO WORK" to be stamped in the VISA. That's a separate issue to address, and it sounds like MOST applicants need or want to consider it.

It is VERY important, and tourists to England always have MAY NOT WORK stamped into their entry stamp when they show their passport at the airport. )For example)

I went through the whole thing, and if I did, so can you and your friend.

The INS gives the instructions on EXACTLY what forms are needed, how the procedures work, and what evidentiary proof is required.

I had LOTS of proof, all of it neatly presented to the INS in thumb indexed, 3 ring binders, every page in a plastic page protector.

They were very impressed, the INS agent said it was the cleanest presentation he ever saw, it comprised over 300 pages in 3 binders, and showed a LOT of sincere hard work to make their job easy.

Naturally, the application was granted quickly at the final interview. The INS loves it when you are forthright, have lots of evidence, and have all the forms filled out and the steps complete.

I had no problems whatsoever.

Neither should you.

Of course if you whine about it and do nothing, you will have problems.

LOTS of them.

And you would deserve to.


The quick lazy and easy way would be for the Romanian bride to just sneak under the fence, wouldn't it?

Like every other illegal.

Sorry, you will find NO sympathy here from people who helped others get here the LEGAL way.

It's much easier to just sit and whine about it. Or just jump the border.

There is ONE control number, I think it is called an A number. The pending case is ALWAYS called up under that number. Even when the provisional green card was issued.

Why are you insulting WVO and DJ? Are you unhappy about their "lucky" confluence of geography and biology?

Sounds like a case of Sour grapes to me.

Here's some free advice: If you EVER have to deal with the INS, you'd do well to set aside your attitude at their door.

It is really bad.

They will notice.

The results for you will be predictable.

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1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

what the hell? while i am so very proud of you for having the tidiest little binder the ins had ever seen, all my original post said was that it was taking forever for my friend to deal with all of the paperwork and bureaucracy to bring his romanian wife (who he married in romania) over here legally. it is my beef that your pedantic and erroneous reply contributed nothing to the thread and served no purpose other than to try and invalidate my casual statement.

and the i-92 form is irrelevant and unnecessary in this case.

my tone was left over from responding to jim b., nothing personal. you will have better luck with the natives here i am sure (i am a transplant). after all, tourism supports the city and most everyone knows that.

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2007 toyota yaris lb
2007 nissan versa (wife's)
2001 nissan frontier
2006 bmw r1150gs
2001 ducati monster 900
2003 zr7s
2007 klr650

So go re read my posts again, there was PLENTY of valid and pertinent information in there, that was given gratis for you and your friend - even though all you were doing was whining about the paperwork and the time.

..And all you can do is flame me. You are getting off to kind of shaky start for a n00b with your insults to myself and WVO and his wife, if you ask me..

Oh well. Dorothy Parker said "No good deed shall go unpunished"


Your tone seems to have been noted by OTHERS to be arrogant, and sarcastic, and so you got (rightly) hoisted on your own petard.

So deal with it.

Goes in the "Not My Problem" box now. buh bye.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

man, i'm glad i have a diesel and don't have to put up with your self righteous bs on a regular basis. your initial tone was hardly one of charity, so don't backpedal now with that gratis crap. i was simply trying to add something to the discussion, hardly whining...and the fact that i am a "n00b" as you so script-kiddyly put it here on the site holds little water in an open discussion forum. if you don't know the laws or the current state of immigration in this country, then you probably should refrain from involving yourself in discussions about them. but you are probably an expert in those, as you are in mercedes, and everything else in the world. yawn. plenty of people like that on the ducati forums, and the bmw forums too. you guys should all start your own forum for cool people where no one is ever a "n00b" and everyone knows everything about everything. you wouldn't even have to post!

and don't try and make my comment to WVO out to be an insult to him or his wife. it was not.

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2001 nissan frontier
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2001 ducati monster 900
2003 zr7s
2007 klr650

Dude...let it go........


Jims... mind is here.....................



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