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Old 12-29-2008, 02:25 PM
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That makes the Palestinians no worse than the Israelis.

What is the goal of Israel's retaliation?.

Israel was created, and later seized more, territory from the Palestinians. The Palestinians lost.
If you want to talk morality which is basically meaningless in this world we live in, yes. The two sides are so locked in a struggle that the only way to end it is for one side to wipe out the other so it won't matter who threw the first punch.

If you don't retaliate, what will happen next? Do you believe the Palestinians will look upon it as restraint? Maybe that and the idea that it might slow down some of the rocket attacks is about all they can hope to do short of systematically eliminating everyone there.

It also ignores the idea that the Palestinians were involved in the war. IIRC, the arabs promised them a share of the take should they help in their attack. As such, that kinda makes them involved in the war. When you lose the war, you lose territory. After that, all we have is still the 2 kids fighting in the backseat. You hit me, I hit you and so on and so forth. They did this, the Israelis did that and so on so they built a wall, etc, etc, etc. Like I said, the only way to end it is for one side to eliminate the other.

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Old 12-29-2008, 02:29 PM
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Everybody who disagrees with you is programmed.
Yep....very funny and very true.

Some folks want to finish the job that the Third Reich couldn't do and "insist" that Jews play nice-nice with those who seek to destroy them.

It is not going to happen, not now, not ever.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:33 PM
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What do YOU see is the real issue? Besides 2 kids fighting in the sandbox, that is.
"where am I driving at..." I was asked before in the thread.

Yes, 2 kids fighting in a sandbox, is a way to describe the situation. The insufficency of either side to move forward and take it to a level where adjustments and progress can be made toward a solution, dignified in the face of humans.

With humans, I mean not only those affected directly, but also those who are literally forced to pay attention, whether they want to or not.

Because those 2 kids managed to play themselves into the foreground of the world's most emotional controversy, since over half a century, disregarding the possiblity, that the rest of the globe's inhabitants might be truly sick and tired of their *****. (pardon my language)

I know, it's asking too much.

Whether it's an issue or not, what really bothers myself is the continued grasp for attention and to place burden on everybody else, to either support or oppose their actions.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:33 PM
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... 1. I am trying to stay as neutral as I can within my own view, merely observing.
.... 2. Do you really think, I am so empty-brained, to put up this issue, without knowing the likeliness of predictable reactions
1. Of course you are.

2. Everybody else is biased.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:36 PM
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It's not going to happen. Not 100 years before today, nor 100 years after today. Unless I am overruled. I that case you'd have to ask me again.


I am definitely on my side, I am sure about that.

Ps. I skipped the part between, did I miss anything?
You should run for political office in Chicago of all places with those comments.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:38 PM
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1. Of course you are.

2. Everybody else is biased.
That fact that I am biased, doesn't mean I can't try to maintain a neutral attitude.

My recommendation:

You need to grow beyond the shores of your pond.
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You should run for political office in Chicago of all places with those comments.
Funny, very funny.
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You should run for political office in Chicago of all places with those comments.
I'm in L.A., that serves just as fine.
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""Militants often operate against Israel from civilian areas" said the article.

If this is the case then don't you think the civilians would step up and pound those bastards into oblivion once and for all.

No, it's more like brainwashing from birth to hate and kill jews and christians.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:40 PM
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Funny, very funny.
OMG, did we manage to get you out from behind the oven?
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If this is the case then don't you think the civilians would step up and pound those bastards into oblivion once and for all.
I would...but then again, that's just me.
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OMG, did we manage to get you out from behind the oven?
I think it is your people who have vastly greater experience with ovens and gas chambers.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:43 PM
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Yep....very funny and very true.

Some folks want to finish the job that the Third Reich couldn't do and "insist" that Jews play nice-nice with those who seek to destroy them.

It is not going to happen, not now, not ever.
I almost missed that one. Now, there goes a program ....
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:45 PM
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I almost missed that one. Now, there goes a program ....
I think that B expressed it best: "anyone who disagrees with you is programmed."

Oh the hubris, oh the ego....
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:47 PM
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I think it is your people who have vastly greater experience with ovens and gas chambers.
I wonder if your true intention is actually to sufficate the thread with your low-life comments, so we just don't address issue, or if you try to pleasure yourself by compensating your unsatisfied childhood by throwing your personal dirt on me?

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