Unlikely. See above. The Cheney theory holds no water.

Let me help you with that:

There was an ex-CIA guy that broke his oath to secrecy on Hardball last night.

.........and why would he do that..........for what possible purpose?

His further statement is that the CIA would have definitely leaked the info if it actually foiled a terrorist plot from information gathered via "interrogation". It never happened.

Self fulfilling BS plain and simple..

Obama Administration Admits "Torture" Techniques Effective
The Bush Administration and our military have, in the past, used techniques that some groups consider torture. Others will argue and defend that the techniques or methods employed gathered data that would have otherwise not been obtained...and that this intel led to saved lives.

The Obama administration's top intelligence official privately told employees last week that "high value information" was obtained in interrogations that included harsh techniques approved by former President George W. Bush.

The report does go on to say that it is unknown whether this information could have been gathered by other means.

The debate is ages old. Some parents believe spanking is an effective disciplinary tool - others argue it is damaging to a child for life. Studies do show that since disciplinary measures such as spanking have been removed from schools, violence and disorderly conduct has increased.

When our nation employed a "soft response" to terrorist acts in the Clinton administration, the acts continued. After the attacks of 9/11, our response was swift and we have had no such attacks on American soil since. This argument has nothing to do with political parties - just our response.

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, they knew they "woke a sleeping giant" and that the response would be massive.

I suggest we "walk softly and carry a big stick" as McCain stated and "speak softly and carry a big stick" as were the infamous words of President Teddy Roosevelt. And in today's world, perhaps the Bush Administration methods weren't so extreme afterall.

If true.......they probably would have leaked it in some way.

Unfortunately, nobody can verify the truth of such info...........or the lack of it.

The agent on Hardball also mentioned that his cohorts generally were of the same opinion............torture only produces what you want to hear..........

It does seem like a simple concept............the prisoner will say anything..........even if he knows nothing.

It's not a simple concept, the interrogator generally knows what they are looking for but need specifics, the perp can't simply blurb out some BS and get away with it. Proper Interrogations take weeks and months and the Pavlov's dog model is used, when the detainee lies they get punished when they tell the truth they are rewarded and after a period of time everybody talks, but different people have different limits.

I never will believe an agent, Soldier or anyone else that breaks the oath of secrecy on a television show.

It could all be cleared-up if the President would go ahead and release ALL pertinent information rather than what appears to be just those portions that support his perspective.

What oath of secrecy did he break? He only stated that the concept of torture never produced any documented results that avoided any incident.

Whether you believe him based on such a statement is your problem. In listening to the fellow, it did not appear that he had any ax to grind.

The first part is he is on TV as an ex-CIA agent which is an oath itself, second nobody appears on TV without something to gain, credible agents and operators take their experiences to the grave.

Point.

He wrote a book.

So, basically, it's virtually impossible to determine the veracity of such a claim.

Yes, exactly.

give me liberty or give me death

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Neither could Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

my goodness, what toughness from the man who served his country proudly...by serving in the - yes, don't laugh now - coast guard. (i know, without your bravery, the vietcong would have been eating beignets and hanging out in the french quarter)

armchair sadism seems to be popular here.

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Navy. What what's your story, morningglory?

Too bad the bastard didn't drown.

Oh well, hope springs eternal. Maybe he'll die of group hugs in the warm embrace of your family.

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