If you guilty, just pay the silly ticket; if not go to court and fight. Fighting valid tickets will take more time than it's worth, and waste everyone else's time too.

Speed limits are not normally set by civil or transportation engineers. The "Speed Limit" can normally be driven safely driven faster than what the sign says.

Example would be the stretch of i90 in Northwestern PA. For 15 miles the speed limit is lowered to 55 from 65. We have state troopers that sit in the center medians and just pull out for any out of towners. It's a blatant money grab as the road traffic does not change.

Personally, I don't think police departments should be allowed to take the spoils of victory from tickets/drug busts/whatever. Instead, the money should be funneled into social programs or public schools. That and quota systems are just as bad.

Police departments should spend more time interacting with the community. Here in town I swear every time I talk to a policeman it's this whole, "Look at my gun"! Type of attitude.

I try to tell myself not every cop is bad, but man every interaction I have is far from friendly.

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Yes, some cops are jerks, there is a certain social/economic type that tends to end up in those types of jobs.

Regarding speeding, if you choose to speed and get caught, just pay the ticket. If you don't want to risk getting a ticket, don't speed. I sometimes speed, and I occasionally have to pay a ticket; cost of doing business.

Doesn't matter who sets the limits,there the speed limit go faster risk a ticket, not a real tough one.

I've never had a problem with 'speeding' as far as cruising at a set speed over great distances. I'm not asking for much, 75 at the most which can actually be slow on most highways around here. The farther you get from the cities the less congested things become and there is no real danger in the act. What I do have a problem with is swerving on the highway and people who gun the throttle around town (It isn't going to make a difference, trust me) However if you have a long trip to go on 65 vs 75 will make a big difference.

While that is a nice though about the schools etc at some point someone will stand up and say "We need X amount of dollars so please pull over more people.'

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what if you weren't speeding but the cop says you were?

BTW, in the past, this happened to me. as a result, I am on the lookout for a speedometer or speed rating system than can verify speed over distance (averages, highs and lows over distance) with 100% accuracy. like a black box for aircraft, something that could be admitted as evidence in traffic court. if anyone knows of such a device I am all ears....if and when I find it, it will most likely be made in Germany......

That's when you go to court, with your lawyer.

courts tend to recognize evidence, thus the need to prove what speed the car is currently traveling at and a history of speed traveled over say, the past five or ten miles. otherwise, cop's word trumps your word, lawyer or no lawyer. Judges hear people say they weren't speeding all day long. I want to build a case that is irrefutable. with today's GPS technology there is most likely a system that can do just that. I'm thinking black box recorder. when I find it I will post it on the forum for others benefit. why pay a ticket when you were NOT speeding?

OK, I think I'm onto something. they are known as Satellite based tracking systems for parents of teenage drivers. the following link highlights possible advantages. notice the amount of $$$$$ the police are putting into the case trying to defeat the teen driver.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/18/report-parents-of-teen-with-speeding-ticket-fighting-citation-w/

doesnt work, they have a precedent that says the officer can use his judgement, no device whatsoever and still ticket you for speeding, and it will hold up unless you find a way to discredit the officer, that will almost assuredly backfire on you in the court.

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yep, at night, I was going north trying to get to Chattanooga for the night, they got me in Ringold, but 85 on highway is the super speeder law. they have already said it is a money fund for emergency services. it is already raising a stink in the first months appearently as I research it, but they screwed me. For those that say just dont sped, I was going around 80 in a 75 and they ticketed me at 86. I should have fought the speed he put on the ticket at that moment but didnt think it made much difference, but it did to the tune of an additional $200. I was guilty of maybe 5 over and having florida plates

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Then just pay the silly ticket and don't waste the time and effort, what do you want me to tell you?

nothing personal, just letting you all know they dont need to show proof anymore. This allows an even broader range of abuse for money strapped precincts, and theres naught we can do about it

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I understand that it's not fair, I just wouldn't bother to fight a losing battle unless it was a huge fine or they were trying to take my license. If it was a big issue, I guess I would try to have a lawyer make it so complex and expensive that they would give up on me and pick on someone else (the OJ defense).

I've noticed they like to sit in the middle of the interstate at night. I've also noticed if there are trees in the center median or off the shoulder they will hide out amongst the trees. you won't notice them unless you see the dimly lit red lights on the cop's instrument panel and by that time they have already clocked you. I think they feel it is easier to hide and therefore easier to nail you. best thing is to drive 5 MPH UNDER the speed limit at all times.