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panZZer · #16 08-06-2010, 05:30 PM

Or a better way of figuring, What's up with THIS.

http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pagename=events_nights_to_honor_israel_reports

LUVMBDiesels · #17 08-06-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

So how much of the palestinians west bank is ok for them to take/and displace people--and where are they supposed to go? Just some, Most, or just enought ? Oh- you are not a christian.

Well according to history, in 1949 the West Bank was annexed by JORDAN and was ruled by them until 1967.

Gee, maybe if the Jordanians had left the Palestinians alone none of this would have happened. Oh and BTW, Gaza was overrun by Egypt and ruled by them until 1967 too. So much for Palestine...

Like I said there is blame all around, but to call the Jews a bunch of baby killing NAZIs leaves out at least half the story.
OK, actually I think we had done this to death a year ago when the rockets started raining down in Jewish school yards...

I am outta here

panZZer · #18 08-06-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels

Well according to history, in 1949 the West Bank was annexed by JORDAN and was ruled by them until 1967.

Gee, maybe if the Jordanians had left the Palestinians alone none of this would have happened. Oh and BTW, Gaza was overrun by Egypt and ruled by them until 1967 too. So much for Palestine...

Like I said there is blame all around, but to call the Jews a bunch of baby killing NAZIs leaves out at least half the story.
OK, actually I think we had done this to death a year ago when the rockets started raining down in Jewish school yards...

I am outta here

You might think someone else might have called the Israli's nazi's outright -but I did not see that, and neither did you. Im looking for input from christians here-This is not the exact subject you think it is-although they end up overlapping since 67.

MS Fowler · #19 08-06-2010, 06:02 PM

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Israel and the west bank. Do you call yourself christian and support the Israli's persecuting the Palestinians.

Wow! Is this a bare-ass naked trolling thread??
I'll bite.
I am a Christian--does that qualify me to answer? I can answer for no one but myself. There is no one CHRISTIAN answer; there are several.
My view is that the nation Israel is not what is in view in the biblical prophecies regarding "the Land". Many Christians would disagree with me on this and believe that the nation, Israel is still looking for fulfillment of the ancient prophecies that "The Land" is theirs forever.
I take a rather different view--In his letter to the Romans, Paul makes a distinction between Israel and Israel--one is the nation; the other is the entire body of believers throughout all time. Thus, he says, " Not all Israel is Israel", meaning that not all Jews are members of the family of faith. Following that reasoning, I believe that the nation Israel is no longer God's chosen people-the church ( the invisible church; not the ones you see on the side of the road) is heir to all those "Israel" promises.
IOW, as a Christian, I do not see the current nation Israel as having God-given RIGHT to that land. I take no side in the generational warfare between Jews and Arab.

Wasn't quite the bombastic tirade you hoped for, huh?

panZZer · #20 08-06-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Wow! Is this a bare-ass naked trolling thread??
I'll bite.
I am a Christian--does that qualify me to answer? I can answer for no one but myself. There is no one CHRISTIAN answer; there are several.
My view is that the nation Israel is not what is in view in the biblical prophecies regarding "the Land". Many Christians would disagree with me on this and believe that the nation, Israel is still looking for fulfillment of the ancient prophecies that "The Land" is theirs forever.
I take a rather different view--In his letter to the Romans, Paul makes a distinction between Israel and Israel--one is the nation; the other is the entire body of believers throughout all time. Thus, he says, " Not all Israel is Israel", meaning that not all Jews are members of the family of faith. Following that reasoning, I believe that the nation Israel is no longer God's chosen people-the church ( the invisible church; not the ones you see on the side of the road) is heir to all those "Israel" promises.
IOW, as a Christian, I do not see the current nation Israel as having God-given RIGHT to that land. I take no side in the generational warfare between Jews and Arab.

Wasn't quite the bombastic tirade you hoped for, huh?

No it wasn't- you're kinda wimpy for a christian-i was looking for a more zelious one, that Fitz guy -hes a jew right?

tonkovich · #21 08-06-2010, 06:17 PM

israel has no right to exist. it's the creation of a strange dishonest group of cultish people, aided by strange, evil colonial, cultish christian nutcases. just a replay of the crusades. saying that doesn't mean i'm a nazi or a anti-semite; jews are free to believe whatever they want, and i certainly don't advocate the "yellow star" treatment. (they, however, do. to anyone that opposes their evil methods and/or points out the lies in their so called history. read up on AIPAC / the jewish lobby.

p.s. there is no one place on earth "holier" than any other; hence, the term "holy land" is just more misrepresentation.

p.p.s. zionism is racism

panZZer · #22 08-06-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

israel has no right to exist. it's the creation of a strange dishonest group of cultish people, aided by strange, evil colonial, cultish christian nutcases. just a replay of the crusades. saying that doesn't mean i'm a nazi or a anti-semite; jews are free to believe whatever they want, and i certainly don't advocate the "yellow star" treatment. (they, however, do. to anyone that opposes their evil methods and/or points out the lies in their so called history. read up on AIPAC / the jewish lobby.

p.s. there is no one place on earth "holier" than any other; hence, the term "holy land" is just more misrepresentation.

p.p.s. zionism is racism

What Eve.... dude. could I please get a whack job "Christian" here...............................................................

panZZer · #23 08-06-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulC

A little tip from a master baiter: If you tell the intended target that you are baiting them, they tend to resist rising to the bait...delete the thread, wait a few weeks until everyone forgets (they will, given your pallid writing abilities) and then just sort of meander into the issue.

Regards,

PaulC

Uh Yeezbu english was my fav-o-rite class in school-not. I liked art class, making things with my hands.

tonkovich · #24 08-06-2010, 06:31 PM

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What Eve.... dude. could I please get a whack job "Christian" here...............................................................

sorry, thought you might want to learn something. say, theodore herzl, balfour, etc.

panZZer · #25 08-06-2010, 06:38 PM

I like learning new things but -Not mainly looking for insight on the jewish point of view about the state--Rather

http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?...israel_reports

Ted did an entire segment on it one nite when he was still on the air.

PaulC · #26 08-06-2010, 07:14 PM

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sorry, thought you might want to learn something. say, theodore herzl, balfour, etc.

Waste of time - He's looking at your post and trying to figure out what some foreign guy has to do with an umpire's call...

MS Fowler · #27 08-06-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

What Eve.... dude. could I please get a whack job "Christian" here...............................................................

Sorry to disappoint.......again.

I guess I could take that as a compliment that I do not fit your definition of whack job.

Billybob · #28 08-06-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tonkovich

israel has no right to exist. it's the creation of a strange dishonest group of cultish people, aided by strange, evil colonial, cultish christian nutcases. just a replay of the crusades. saying that doesn't mean i'm a nazi or a anti-semite; jews are free to believe whatever they want, and i certainly don't advocate the "yellow star" treatment. (they, however, do. to anyone that opposes their evil methods and/or points out the lies in their so called history. read up on AIPAC / the jewish lobby.

p.s. there is no one place on earth "holier" than any other; hence, the term "holy land" is just more misrepresentation.

p.p.s. zionism is racism

How is that? Isn’t it the same UN that in another thread you claim is the absolute world authority on war crimes when it comes to GW Bush the same UN which on 29 November 1947 passed resolution 181(II) Future Government of Palestine which ended the British Mandate for Palestine and partitioned the area creating a Jewish state and a Arab State and a UN administered area including Jerusalem?

LUVMBDiesels · #29 08-06-2010, 09:24 PM

^^^ Which was promptly overrun buy Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Palestine as a state was carved up by those three countries in 1949. If you ask me they are to blame for this mess today more than the Zionists are.
Tell me why in almost 20 years of Egyptian and Jordanian rule nobody cried out for them to leave the West Bank and Gaza?

tonkovich · #30 08-06-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels

^^^ Which was promptly overrun buy Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Palestine as a state was carved up by those three countries in 1949. If you ask me they are to blame for this mess today more than the Zionists are.
Tell me why in almost 20 years of Egyptian and Jordanian rule nobody cried out for them to leave the West Bank and Gaza?

gee, you're not trying to change the subject are you, and take the focus off an imperialist, colonizing cult, are you? (cause it sure looks that way.theodore herzl and lord balfour would be very proud of you.

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