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Old 09-13-2010, 02:45 PM
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Workplace Violence, again

work place violence is becoming a hot topic. not everyone in this world has their marbles in place and this is proof positive of that. many companies have no security plan in place to deal with the problem children. time for a change.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/10/police-say-feuds-colleagues-led-philadelphia-woman-kill-wound-food-plant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29

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Old 09-13-2010, 02:48 PM
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work place violence is becoming a hot topic. not everyone in this world has their marbles in place and this is proof positive of that. many companies have no security plan in place to deal with the problem children. time for a change.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/10/police-say-feuds-colleagues-led-philadelphia-woman-kill-wound-food-plant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29
Sounds to me like she wasn't satisfied with her job......

Some people just need to "get a life."
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Sounds to me like she wasn't satisfied with her job......

Some people just need to "get a life."
it's hard to say. some companies are now employing intensive psychological screening tests to try and keep these types out. however, since no test is 100% fail safe it appears it may be time for many businesses to seriously take a second look at their security plans.
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it's hard to say. some companies are now employing intensive psychological screening tests to try and keep these types out. however, since no test is 100% fail safe it appears it may be time for many businesses to seriously take a second look at their security plans.
Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......." That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....
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Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......."
There's a dystopian Sci-fi novel in there somewhere.

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There's a dystopian Sci-fi novel in there somewhere.

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Throw-in the reality of the murder weapon, a 357 Magnum - and it suddenly gets real again......
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Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......." That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....
correct, many companies employ credit scores, criminal back ground checks, and psychological screening exams to try and weed out the losers. many in management have conflicting ideas as to what type of tests and back ground checks will weed out the whackos. obviously, no testing or back ground check is 100% fail safe. the nub job who killed all the students at Virginia Tech passed the required background checks to purchase a gun. proof once again that one's life may appear to be normal when it is not.

who knows why she had the gun, but as the news reports indicate, she didn't hesitate to use it.

it appears to me that the problem is that many companies have a 'no guns allowed on the premises' policy which is a stated failure. only people who follow the rules follow these policies.

obviously, the 'rule breakers' will simply trot out to their car to retrieve their favorite toy to do damage. and, since the worker bees have been effectively disarmed by the 'no guns allowed on company premises' policies, they are SITTING DUCKS waiting to be plucked, yes?

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correct, many companies employ credit scores, criminal back ground checks, and psychological screening exams to try and weed out the losers. but even then, the credit scoring system and testing systems are not 100% fail safe. who knows why she had the gun, but as the news reports indicate, she didn't hesitate to use it.

it appears to me that the problem is that many companies have a 'no guns allowed on the premises' policy which is a stated failure. only people who follow the rules follow these policies.

obviously, the 'rule breakers' will simply trot out to their car to retrieve their favorite toy to do damage. and, since the worker bees have been effectively disarmed by the 'no guns allowed on company premises' policies, they are SITTING DUCKS waiting to be plucked, yes?
Excellent points.

I am nervous about being in public/private access buildings that have; "NO WEAPONS/HANDGUNS" notices plastered all over their entrances - when people entering the facility/property ARE NOT CHECKED for WEAPONS/HANDGUNS upon entering.

The shooter apparently felt that employing the 357 Magnum was the most viable option to settling the score.

The wounded and dead may have in fact earned their plight as shooting victims. Many people toy with giving others a hard time in the workplace. Many of them should think twice before doing so. Incidents like this should make some think twice on their behaviors toward others.
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and, obviously, the security guards were unable to stop her which seems to indicate they were unarmed. let's at least get armed security guards at these companies, and by armed I mean someone who trains regularly with a firearm. I have noticed that in places where there is an armed security guard present, people tend to be more polite and courteous to one another.

imagine that.
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and, obviously, the security guards were unable to stop her which seems to indicate they were unarmed. let's at least get armed security guards at these companies, and by armed I mean someone who trains regularly with a firearm. I have noticed that in places where there is an armed security guard present, people tend to be more polite and courteous to one another.

imagine that.
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and, obviously, the security guards were unable to stop her which seems to indicate they were unarmed. let's at least get armed security guards at these companies, and by armed I mean someone who trains regularly with a firearm. I have noticed that in places where there is an armed security guard present, people tend to be more polite and courteous to one another.

imagine that.
I am actually quite surprised that the security guards were not able to stop [read: unarmed]. Such a large company like Kraft handling mass production of some of the most widely distributed foodstuffs in the country should have pretty airtight security...more from the vantage point of contamination but still.
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I am actually quite surprised that the security guards were not able to stop [read: unarmed]. Such a large company like Kraft handling mass production of some of the most widely distributed foodstuffs in the country should have pretty airtight security...more from the vantage point of contamination but still.
unfortunately there are many companies with extremely lax security. and, amazingly, the nut cases are very aware of the companies that are lax.

I feel there is an unprecedented opportunity in personal and business security that hasn't even begun to be addressed. a BIG part of the problem is that management doesn't think that they have a security problem, when in fact, they have a HUGE security problem.

they need to pull their heads out of their tail pipes, wake up and smell the coffee NOW before more of these crazies unleash their unholy murderous shooting sprees.
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I would seriously doubt that the Kraft Co. food processing plants across the country have screening, metal detectors to detect any incoming weapons/handguns.

With the 357 Magnum drawn and pointed at any security guard, I doubt they could be of much help as the gunwoman re-entered the building.
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I would seriously doubt that the Kraft Co. food processing plants across the country have screening, metal detectors to detect any incoming weapons/handguns.

With the 357 Magnum drawn and pointed at any security guard, I doubt they could be of much help as the gunwoman re-entered the building.
that's the problem, they probably don't. and since Johnny rent-a-cop (packing a baton and perhaps pepper spray only) is sitting at the front door, the woman had easy entrance.

I've worked at companies that employed off duty police officers as security. they sat right at the front entrance to the building and were very obviously ARMED. again, everyone seemed to act very pleasant and polite when in the vicinity of the security officer's desk. it takes a gun to stop a gun, always has and always will.

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