PSSSSST: Yes they do. At a paper mill in OK? or AR. Several emplyees were fired for having guns in there cars in direct violation of company policy. THey took it to court and won there jobs back. The court ruled that private property rights do not over ride the 2nd admendment(as long as the firearm is legally owned etc etc) I am trying to find the case now.

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*On edit: No they didn't. They won nothing. That's false/untrue information you're claiming.

CONCLUSION
46 "We have considered all of plaintiffs' arguments and, for the foregoing reasons,
we AFFIRM the district court's orders granting summary judgment to Weyco on all of plaintiffs' claims."


I doubted your court case had little, if anything to do with hinging on private property.

In fact I'm certain the court case ruling, (if it's true) has little, IF anything, to do with private property.

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2002 Weyerhauser paper mill in OK

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Should people who lawfully possess firearms be able to leave them locked in their motor vehicles, on business property? Common sense would say, "yes." All 50 states allow the transportation of firearms in motor vehicles for all lawful purposes and 48 states allow the carrying of firearms in vehicles for personal protection, in some manner.1 More than one of every four of America`s 65-80 million gun owners carries a firearm in his or her vehicle for protection.2
The U.S. Constitution and the constitutions of 46 states protect the right to arms and/or self-defense.3 And since 1986, federal law has protected the right to transport firearms in vehicles interstate.4
However, over the last few years disagreements over the right of people to leave firearms locked in their vehicles on business property have arisen. As a result, five state legislatures have passed, and during their current legislative sessions additional states are considering passing, laws to protect that right.5
The issue began in 2002 in Oklahoma, when the Weyerhaeuser corporation fired employees for having guns in personal vehicles on company property. The Oklahoma Legislature responded, unanimously in the House and by a vote of 92-4 in the Senate, by prohibiting "any policy or rule" prohibiting law-abiding people "from transporting and storing firearms in a locked vehicle."

Arguments raised against the right of people, particularly employees, to leave firearms in locked vehicles on business property are unconvincing:

• A business owner`s private property rights are not affected by a law preventing the micro-management of the lawful contents of a person`s privately-owned automobile. Moreover, an employer`s private property interests do not trump a person`s right to have a firearm available for self-defense, if needed, during the daily commute to and from work. As with all civil rights, employers and owners of commercial property may not act with disregard to the rights of citizens. Reasonable accommodation is the foundation of the protection of all civil rights.
• A commercial landowner is subject to numerous limits, imposed by the federal, state and local governments, on what may and may not occur on its property.
• Employees have a legitimate private property interest where their automobiles and their contents are concerned. In our legal system, property rights extend to property other than land.
• Most gun-related violent crimes in workplaces are committed by non-employees. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 84% of all workplace murders are committed by strangers; 7% are committed by current or former employees.6 Naturally, strangers and former employees are not bound by any company policy pertaining to employees.
• Anyone determined to commit a violent crime will not be prevented from doing so by a mere company policy against having guns in cars. This should go without saying, since criminals are already willing to break laws against murder, rape, robbery and assault.
• Laws protecting the right to leave firearms in locked motor vehicles do not authorize a person to have a firearm outside his or her vehicle.
• Laws protecting the right to leave firearms in locked motor vehicles on business property specifically protect the property owner from liability for any related injuries or damages. Also, if a business prohibits people from possessing the means to defend themselves in their vehicles, it is potentially liable for injuries and damages incurred for failure to provide adequate security.
• The problem of workplace crimes has been exaggerated. The nation`s violent crime rate has declined every year since 1991 and is now at a 30-year low, the murder rate is at a 39-year low, and workplace violent crime has decreased more than violent crime generally. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health says, "the circumstances of workplace homicides differ substantially from those portrayed by the media and from homicides in the general population."7

Notes:
1. Only Illinois and Wisconsin do not have such laws.
2. USA Today/CNN/Gallup National Poll, Dec. 17-19, 1993.
3. The constitutions of the United States and all states except California, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, and New York protect the right to possess firearms for protection, recreation, sports, hunting, and other lawful purposes. Iowa and New Jersey`s constitutions protect the right to self-defense in general terms.
4. 18 U.S.C. sec. 926A.
5. In 1998, Kentucky`s Attorney General determined that state law prohibits employers from prohibiting people from having firearms in their vehicles. Minnesota`s Right-to-Carry law (2003) prohibits employers from prohibiting carry permit holders from having firearms in their vehicles. Laws protecting the right of any lawful possessor of a firearm to have a firearm in a personally-owned vehicle were passed in Oklahoma and Alaska in 2005, and Mississippi in 2006.
6. "Violence in the Workplace, 1993-1999," Dec. 2001 (www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/vw99.pdf). The study also noted, the highest percentage of work-related murders occur between 8p.m.-12 a.m., when most businesses are closed.
7. "Violence in the Workplace," July 1996 (www.cdc.gov/niosh/violhomi.html).

That is from the NRA-ILA website I am still looking for the case #.

The 1st and 3rd bullet pointare the ones I was remembering.

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My above Post #32 verifies that your assertions and claims are untrue/false information.

Read my above post......

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Your standard for evidence from yourself is below that which you require from Buffa.

You demanded a link, and now you claim proof? POST YOUR OWN LINK.

Here is post 32, copied as it was just now. This is because you are going to edit it again and claim that I am lying. (Unless you're simply ignoring me, because I do occasionally challenge you when you get too far "out there.")

I will have to do more research when I get a break here. It went to at least 1 if not 2 more appeals and the jobs were given back. If I remember the story about the case the reasoning behind the appeals decision was the fact that the cars could not be searched under the 4th amendment. The panel re established the car as a whooly owned peice of private property was not allowed to be searched with out Rresonable cause etc etc etc. And the rights of a corparation as a property owner ended at the INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS of a PROPERTY OWNER.

Again not trying to split hirs but in our last contract the company had to remove that clause from the contract about searching cars. What was put in was letting them know if you had (or the ability) to carry one.

Mostly because of hunting season guys getting off of night shift and heading stright into the field.

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Then we have these idiots who decided to bring their guns through a security checkpoint at a nuke plant:

http://www.wyff4.com/r/24575104/detail.html

Good plan, bubba.

Are you refering to me?

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Mybad.

You: overreacting

And, I'll say this: if someone else had been packing something more useful than liverwurst on Kraft's private property, they just might have been able to stop the gunwoman in her tracks instead of hiding in the friggin' closet until the dust cleared.

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LOL, nope.

I'm referring to the two guys in the news story who thought it was "bring your gun to work day."

I punched my boss in the face today, man does my jaw hurt.

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