Workplace Violence, again

[HuskyMan]

work place violence is becoming a hot topic. not everyone in this world has their marbles in place and this is proof positive of that. many companies have no security plan in place to deal with the problem children. time for a change.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/10/police-say-feuds-colleagues-led-philadelphia-woman-kill-wound-food-plant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

work place violence is becoming a hot topic. not everyone in this world has their marbles in place and this is proof positive of that. many companies have no security plan in place to deal with the problem children. time for a change.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/10/police-say-feuds-colleagues-led-philadelphia-woman-kill-wound-food-plant/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29

Sounds to me like she wasn't satisfied with her job......

Some people just need to "get a life."

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Sounds to me like she wasn't satisfied with her job......

Some people just need to "get a life."

it's hard to say. some companies are now employing intensive psychological screening tests to try and keep these types out. however, since no test is 100% fail safe it appears it may be time for many businesses to seriously take a second look at their security plans.

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

it's hard to say. some companies are now employing intensive psychological screening tests to try and keep these types out. however, since no test is 100% fail safe it appears it may be time for many businesses to seriously take a second look at their security plans.

Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......." That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....

[pj67coll]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......."

There's a dystopian Sci-fi novel in there somewhere.

- Peter.

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by pj67coll

There's a dystopian Sci-fi novel in there somewhere.

- Peter.

Throw-in the reality of the murder weapon, a 357 Magnum - and it suddenly gets real again......

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......." That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....

correct, many companies employ credit scores, criminal back ground checks, and psychological screening exams to try and weed out the losers. many in management have conflicting ideas as to what type of tests and back ground checks will weed out the whackos. obviously, no testing or back ground check is 100% fail safe. the nub job who killed all the students at Virginia Tech passed the required background checks to purchase a gun. proof once again that one's life may appear to be normal when it is not.

who knows why she had the gun, but as the news reports indicate, she didn't hesitate to use it.

it appears to me that the problem is that many companies have a 'no guns allowed on the premises' policy which is a stated failure. only people who follow the rules follow these policies.

obviously, the 'rule breakers' will simply trot out to their car to retrieve their favorite toy to do damage. and, since the worker bees have been effectively disarmed by the 'no guns allowed on company premises' policies, they are SITTING DUCKS waiting to be plucked, yes?

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

correct, many companies employ credit scores, criminal back ground checks, and psychological screening exams to try and weed out the losers. but even then, the credit scoring system and testing systems are not 100% fail safe. who knows why she had the gun, but as the news reports indicate, she didn't hesitate to use it.

it appears to me that the problem is that many companies have a 'no guns allowed on the premises' policy which is a stated failure. only people who follow the rules follow these policies.

obviously, the 'rule breakers' will simply trot out to their car to retrieve their favorite toy to do damage. and, since the worker bees have been effectively disarmed by the 'no guns allowed on company premises' policies, they are SITTING DUCKS waiting to be plucked, yes?

Excellent points.

I am nervous about being in public/private access buildings that have; "NO WEAPONS/HANDGUNS" notices plastered all over their entrances - when people entering the facility/property ARE NOT CHECKED for WEAPONS/HANDGUNS upon entering.

The shooter apparently felt that employing the 357 Magnum was the most viable option to settling the score.

The wounded and dead may have in fact earned their plight as shooting victims. Many people toy with giving others a hard time in the workplace. Many of them should think twice before doing so. Incidents like this should make some think twice on their behaviors toward others.

[strelnik]

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

correct, many companies employ credit scores, criminal back ground checks, and psychological screening exams to try and weed out the losers. many in management have conflicting ideas as to what type of tests and back ground checks will weed out the whackos. obviously, no testing or back ground check is 100% fail safe. the nub job who killed all the students at Virginia Tech passed the required background checks to purchase a gun. proof once again that one's life may appear to be normal when it is not.

obviously, the 'rule breakers' will simply trot out to their car to retrieve their favorite toy to do damage. and, since the worker bees have been effectively disarmed by the 'no guns allowed on company premises' policies, they are SITTING DUCKS waiting to be plucked, yes?

The people who never do anything, never get out of line, never yell, never get mad, are the ones who are often "set off" by something. Then, because they have a clean record, they can get anything they want: weapon, 60 gallon drum full of gas, dynamite + f;lare gun, you name it.

Society spends too much time trying to insulate people from "badness" and in the course of doing so, creates greater problems. Like a slew of folks who have never done anything, never act out, and are unidentifiable ticking time bombs.

The guy who yells once in a while, *****es and complains, well, he gets noticed but he never or rarely does anything violent because he has let off the steam.

Read the poem Miniver Cheevy, I think it is, about a guy who lived all his life according to the rules and was "perfect." He picked up a revolver, held it to his temple and ended his perfection. Hmmmm.

[R Leo]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

... and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....

What's the big deal? 2nd amendment not your style? This particular 'food processing worker' has a .357 in his car (well, actually it's a truck and the processing I do is bit further up-stream than Kraft).

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by R Leo

What's the big deal? 2nd amendment not your style? This particular 'food processing worker' has a .357 in his car (well, actually it's a truck and the processing I do is bit further up-stream than Kraft).

DOH!!!!!

PSSSSST: 2nd Amendment rights are non-existent on PRIVATE PROPERTY.

If the gunwoman hadn't of been carrying on Kraft Co. property - the murders would not have happened.

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by R Leo

What's the big deal? 2nd amendment not your style? This particular 'food processing worker' has a .357 in his car (well, actually it's a truck and the processing I do is bit further up-stream than Kraft).

it is what this particular woman did with her gun that is particularly disturbing. no one wants to infringe on 2nd amendment rights, however, she certainly infringed on the right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' of the employees she killed.

[Chas H]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

Obviously she felt like excercising her 2nd amendment rights.

[Txjake]

Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Just a hunch - but I think the perpetrator's credit score, and life-profile, would have been a better indicator of her viability as an employee to the Kraft Co., than any "intensive psychological screening test......." That, and why a food processing worker would have need for "a 357 Magnum" handgun in her car?

I'm just sayin'.....

umm, some srious flaws here. credit score is not a valid indicator of anything other than a person's ability to meet the scoring requirements of a faceless, nameless group of companies.

need to own a .357 magnum? uh, would a .22 been any better, perhaps more fitting for a person of her life position?

food service worker, attorney, corporate mogul, college student. we are all afforded the same rights under the constitution.

I'm just saying..........

[Skid Row Joe]

Originally Posted by Txjake

umm, some srious flaws here. credit score is not a valid indicator of anything other than a person's ability to meet the scoring requirements of a faceless, nameless group of companies.

need to own a .357 magnum? uh, would a .22 been any better, perhaps more fitting for a person of her life position?

umm, 'clueless:'
You are totally uniformed on credit scores and their origins.....

1) Credit scores are a profile of the person's financial responsibility. A very good indicator of how they manage their life. I wouldn't expect too much of a credit score in her case though. LOL!

Trot her credit score out here, and we'll see if "other parts of her life were managed so WELL?"

People that don't meet their financial obligations, are also people who commonly do not meet other life obligations, too.......(there's a worse word for 'em I won't use here.....) ......Surprise, surprise.......


2) I see.....it was; "bring your 357 Magnum to work day," at her food processing plant. .22s are only brought on what, "Fridays?"