What kind of car wax do you recommend? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

jt20 · #1 09-22-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon

car detailing is like oil discussion.. everyone has their opinion and own way of doing it.

so good luck!

ditto!!

kknudson · #2 09-22-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon

car detailing is like oil discussion.. everyone has their opinion and own way of doing it.

so good luck!

Thats why I stay out of the flame wars.

Get a GOOD wax and follow the directions.

Also it will be much more effective if you apply it to as clean a surface as possible.

TheDon · #3 09-22-2010, 02:36 PM

I'm just saying.

It's like the whole I can run my car on unheated veggie oil argument. Sure you can run your car on it.. but is it good for your engine?

DeliveryValve · #4 09-22-2010, 02:44 PM

Here's my two cents. In my observation, cars that have a clear coat gets degraded faster and look like crap if waxed regularly than cars that have not been waxed. This is over a 10-15 year period with my own cars.

The short term benefit is the waxed cars definitely look better then the unwaxed counter part. So it boils down preference.

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Skid Row Joe · #5 09-22-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve

Here's my two cents. In my observation, cars that have a clear coat gets degraded faster and look like crap if waxed regularly than cars that have not been waxed. This is over a 10-15 year period with my own cars.

This is 100% accurate.

jt20 · #6 09-22-2010, 02:41 PM

I used to wax my cars. I understand the difference that waxing provides, to some degree.

...but why is automotive paint treated so differently from every other painted surface?

If anything, due to the extreme conditions a car experiences each day, auto paint is made more durable than any other paint.

I am not saying wax doesn't help it stay cleaner or look better longer... but for the longevity of the paint..... there should be no argument.

Skid Row Joe · #7 09-22-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by benhogan

For a guy who only wants to do it once a year.

Thanks in advance yall.

Wax is for weiners.

Synthetic finishes are where it's at.

I use WIZARDSPRODUCTS.COM exclusively http://WIZARDSPRODUCTS.COM

MIST 'N SHINE is all I use to keep my Mercedes-Benz looking like glass.

TheDon · #8 09-22-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wax is for weiners.

Synthetic finishes are where it's at.

I use WIZARDSPRODUCTS.COM exclusively http://WIZARDSPRODUCTS.COM

MIST 'N SHINE is all I use to keep my Mercedes-Benz looking like glass.

I use a synthetic sealant with a traditional carnuba based wax on top. The sealent protects and the wax gives it the wet/shimmer look.

then I use Meg's Ultimate quick detailer for in between cleaning

Skid Row Joe · #9 09-22-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDon

I use a synthetic sealant with a traditional carnuba based wax on top. The sealent protects and the wax gives it the wet/shimmer look.

then I use Meg's Ultimate quick detailer for in between cleaning

BTDT.
Would never, ever use their oil-based, greasy products.

Wax has zilch lasting value. If you really sealed it, you wouldn't need a wax on top of it anyway.

WIZARDS PRODUCTS DOT COM - NONE BETTER........OR LONGER LASTING OUT THERE IN CAR CARE PRODUCTS LAND. BUY DIRECT AND SAVE!

jt20 · #10 09-22-2010, 02:58 PM

the reasons those debates exist is due to the lack of data to each individual.

each person only has a limited window of experience. "I ran my car on Mobil1 for 5 years with no issues!!"

unless the car spontaneously combusted, this douche will continue to believe that mobil1 is the best oil out there. etc...

sure, pro detailers use wax, it makes a difference. But the idea of 'protection' , I think, is misleading.

Think about the physics of wax for a sec. Water sticks to the paint because it is a rough surface compared to something like glass. You fill all the little valleys in with the wax then smooth the top out by heating the wax with each removing stroke.

Certainly, less water and dirt can stick to this surface and maybe some acidic bird poop won't etch its mark in there.

But what about the sun? By waxing, you actually trap light waves in between the wax and the paint surface creating more harm than if the car had no wax on it. The light waves continue to bounce around until they find their way out.

Light waves can cause cancer in animals. But most of them ingest the elements you think you are protecting your paint from on a daily basis.

i'm blabbing... just something to think about.

Skid Row Joe · #11 09-22-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jt20

the reasons those debates exist is due to the lack of data to each individual.

each person only has a limited window of experience. "I ran my car on Mobil1 for 5 years with no issues!!"

unless the car spontaneously combusted, this douche will continue to believe that mobil1 is the best oil out there. etc...

sure, pro detailers use wax, it makes a difference. But the idea of 'protection' , I think, is misleading.

Think about the physics of wax for a sec. Water sticks to the paint because it is a rough surface compared to something like glass. You fill all the little valleys in with the wax then smooth the top out by heating the wax with each removing stroke.

Certainly, less water and dirt can stick to this surface and maybe some acidic bird poop won't etch its mark in there.

But what about the sun? By waxing, you actually trap light waves in between the wax and the paint surface creating more harm than if the car had no wax on it. The light waves continue to bounce around until they find their way out.

Light waves can cause cancer in animals. But most of them ingest the elements you think you are protecting your paint from on a daily basis.

i'm blabbing... just something to think about.

Dude, yer clueless and "out there," in car care products land.

But rant on - it's really hilarious!

jt20 · #12 09-22-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Dude, yer clueless.

But rant on - it's really hilarious!

sad.... isn't it?
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its this little thing we call 'dialogue' not ranting. Only those people with original thought or experience are are allowed to play. I guess since you have no real substantial reply, you are not playing?

Skid Row Joe · #13 09-22-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jt20

sad.... isn't it?
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its this little thing we call 'dialogue' not ranting. Only those people with original thought or experience are are allowed to play. I guess since you have no real substantial reply, you are not playing?

Sorry, but I got a good laugh at the untrue information you were posting.

I got tickled when I read it - carry on......

DeliveryValve · #14 09-22-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jt20

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But what about the sun? By waxing, you actually trap light waves in between the wax and the paint surface creating more harm than if the car had no wax on it. The light waves continue to bounce around until they find their way out.

Light waves can cause cancer in animals. But most of them ingest the elements you think you are protecting your paint from on a daily basis.

i'm blabbing... just something to think about.

I agree with you on this base on my own experience with wax or polishes and the hot Californian desert sun we have here. I think if the product can prove UV protection, I would use it, but I don't think there is a product out there that can prove it.

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jt20 · #15 09-22-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve

I agree with you on this base on my own experience with wax or polishes and the hot Californian desert sun we have here. I think if the product can prove UV protection, I would use it, but I don't think there is a product out there that can prove it.

and so far you are the one person with time based experience on this thread.