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Old 02-22-2011, 06:30 PM
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So, answer why do these public schools exist?

Since you seem to think they have NO culpability.

"Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest."
Never said there were no problems with public schools. There are plenty. But public schools are a product of their society. And given the degeneration of that society it's not in the least bit surprising that it's problems overwhelm many schools. I repeat. Schools can teach, they cannot motivate. That is the parents job and if they don't do so they are piss poor excuses for parents, citizens, and general worthwhile human beings.

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Old 02-22-2011, 06:34 PM
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Never said there were no problems with public schools. There are plenty. But public schools are a product of their society. And given the degeneration of that society it's not in the least bit surprising that it's problems overwhelm many schools. I repeat. Schools can teach, they cannot motivate. That is the parents job and if they don't do so they are piss poor excuses for parents, citizens, and general worthwhile human beings.

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Well, your Wisconsin public schools with union workers are failing. Just like GM, and Chrysler. They need to change or be replaced. They are producing a failing product by 66%.

That's unacceptable.
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Everyday, in some way, I'm reminded of just how disadvantaged I am because I received a "public education". Private schools will ALWAYS trump public schools. Private schools cost $$$$ which means only the haves can afford it. The have nots end up with a "public education".

The divide between the haves and the have nots grows wider.
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Never said there were no problems with public schools. There are plenty. But public schools are a product of their society. And given the degeneration of that society it's not in the least bit surprising that it's problems overwhelm many schools. I repeat. Schools can teach, they cannot motivate. That is the parents job and if they don't do so they are piss poor excuses for parents, citizens, and general worthwhile human beings.

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Not in Wisconsin they cannot teach.

Explain how 2 out of 3 kids in eighth grade in WI public schools cannot read?

Your side isn't working. They need to be replaced by non-union workers that WILL teach..

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Old 02-23-2011, 12:29 AM
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Not in Wisconsin they cannot teach.

Explain how 2 out of 3 kids in eighth grade in WI public schools cannot read?

Your side isn't working. They need to be replaced by non-union workers that WILL teach..
Wrong. It says at proficient levels. 80 some percent are at or above basic.

Its worse in Texas and other southern states. Only 27% are consider at proficient levels. So nearly 3/4 Texas kids are not proficient.
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Wrong. It says at proficient levels. 80 some percent are at or above basic.
Wrong answer. You never answered the question.

Explain how it could be, that 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th grade public school children cannot read proficiently - after being taught by government union worker teachers for 8 to 9 years?

Take your time.
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Wrong answer. You never answered the question. Explain how 2/3 cannot read proficiently?
Explain how Texas has lower scores than WI.
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Explain how Texas has lower scores than WI.
I asked you first on Wisconsin.......

Take your time. Tick-tock-tick-tock............

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I asked you first on Wisconsin.......
You did not. You asked another.
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Wrong answer. You never answered the question. Explain how 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th grade public school children cannot read proficiently?

Take your time.

Several posters have given you reasonable answers including fault in part on the parents, children and the educators.

However you refuse to accept any fault in the parents and children.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."

The educators can instruct all kinds of information into the children but whether or not the children learn the information and understand it is a function of both the child, parent and the methods used by the educator. The educator cannot be 100% at fault.

You have to at least accept that, any parent will be able to tell you that they've had to help/force/make little Johhny do his homework. Some kids have the drive to do it on their own and achieve, others do not and require more outside influence. We cannot honestly expect the teacher to be 100% of the outside influence in these cases.
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Several posters have given you reasonable answers including fault in part on the parents, children and the educators.

However you refuse to accept any fault in the parents and children.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."

The educators can instruct all kinds of information into the children but whether or not the children learn the information and understand it is a function of both the child, parent and the methods used by the educator. The educator cannot be 100% at fault.

You have to at least accept that, any parent will be able to tell you that they've had to help/force/make little Johhny do his homework. Some kids have the drive to do it on their own and achieve, others do not and require more outside influence. We cannot honestly expect the teacher to be 100% of the outside influence in these cases.
Concentrate on your failing government union teachers. Since they failed to teach 2/3 of the state's children to read proficiently by the 8th grade. Unbelievable but true nonetheless.

The answer is I believe they are incompetent teachers. You cannot fail to teach 2/3 of Wisconsin's government school children to read proficiently after 9 years of teaching reading. It isn't possible to fail 2 out of 3 children in 9 years unless you are incompetent. 66% of all Wisconsin public school children cannot be that incapable. 10% tops maybe, but not 66% of them. Impossible.

You see, it's children first, and government union workers accountability - something that is blatantly failing the children.

Failed teachers should be terminated. Problem solved. Non-union teachers will do a better job, they always do.
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This thread is attracting a lot of very negative action. If you all cannot control your emotions you need to not post.

I infracted one person for changing another person's post which completely changed the meaning of it. I will do that in the future as well.

A lot of name calling and personal attacks as well.

STick to the subject and provide facts please.

I have given warnings and infraction points but some of them have short durations to allow folks to cool off and live again.

I'll be closing the thread if it continues to go downhill.
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