Why Can't Johhny Read? (in WI) - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

JamesDean · #1 02-23-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Not in Wisconsin they cannot teach.

Explain how 2 out of 3 kids in eighth grade in WI public schools cannot read?

Your side isn't working. They need to be replaced by non-union workers that WILL teach..

Wrong. It says at proficient levels. 80 some percent are at or above basic.

Its worse in Texas and other southern states. Only 27% are consider at proficient levels. So nearly 3/4 Texas kids are not proficient.

Skid Row Joe · #2 02-23-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Wrong. It says at proficient levels. 80 some percent are at or above basic.

Wrong answer. You never answered the question.

Explain how it could be, that 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th grade public school children cannot read proficiently - after being taught by government union worker teachers for 8 to 9 years?

Take your time.

Chas H · #3 02-23-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wrong answer. You never answered the question. Explain how 2/3 cannot read proficiently?

Explain how Texas has lower scores than WI.

Skid Row Joe · #4 02-23-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Explain how Texas has lower scores than WI.

I asked you first on Wisconsin.......

Take your time. Tick-tock-tick-tock............

inappropriate personal attack to inflame

Chas H · #5 02-23-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

I asked you first on Wisconsin.......

You did not. You asked another.

JamesDean · #6 02-23-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wrong answer. You never answered the question. Explain how 2/3 of Wisconsin 8th grade public school children cannot read proficiently?

Take your time.

Several posters have given you reasonable answers including fault in part on the parents, children and the educators.

However you refuse to accept any fault in the parents and children.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."

The educators can instruct all kinds of information into the children but whether or not the children learn the information and understand it is a function of both the child, parent and the methods used by the educator. The educator cannot be 100% at fault.

You have to at least accept that, any parent will be able to tell you that they've had to help/force/make little Johhny do his homework. Some kids have the drive to do it on their own and achieve, others do not and require more outside influence. We cannot honestly expect the teacher to be 100% of the outside influence in these cases.

Skid Row Joe · #7 02-23-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

Several posters have given you reasonable answers including fault in part on the parents, children and the educators.

However you refuse to accept any fault in the parents and children.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."

The educators can instruct all kinds of information into the children but whether or not the children learn the information and understand it is a function of both the child, parent and the methods used by the educator. The educator cannot be 100% at fault.

You have to at least accept that, any parent will be able to tell you that they've had to help/force/make little Johhny do his homework. Some kids have the drive to do it on their own and achieve, others do not and require more outside influence. We cannot honestly expect the teacher to be 100% of the outside influence in these cases.

Concentrate on your failing government union teachers. Since they failed to teach 2/3 of the state's children to read proficiently by the 8th grade. Unbelievable but true nonetheless.

The answer is I believe they are incompetent teachers. You cannot fail to teach 2/3 of Wisconsin's government school children to read proficiently after 9 years of teaching reading. It isn't possible to fail 2 out of 3 children in 9 years unless you are incompetent. 66% of all Wisconsin public school children cannot be that incapable. 10% tops maybe, but not 66% of them. Impossible.

You see, it's children first, and government union workers accountability - something that is blatantly failing the children.

Failed teachers should be terminated. Problem solved. Non-union teachers will do a better job, they always do.

t walgamuth · #8 02-23-2011, 06:27 AM

This thread is attracting a lot of very negative action. If you all cannot control your emotions you need to not post.

I infracted one person for changing another person's post which completely changed the meaning of it. I will do that in the future as well.

A lot of name calling and personal attacks as well.

STick to the subject and provide facts please.

I have given warnings and infraction points but some of them have short durations to allow folks to cool off and live again.

I'll be closing the thread if it continues to go downhill.

JamesDean · #9 02-23-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

This thread is attracting a lot of very negative action. If you all cannot control your emotions you need to not post.

I infracted one person for changing another person's post which completely changed the meaning of it. I will do that in the future as well.

A lot of name calling and personal attacks as well.

STick to the subject and provide facts please.

I have given warnings and infraction points but some of them have short durations to allow folks to cool off and live again.

I'll be closing the thread if it continues to go downhill.

I very much tried to keep all of my posts civil and factual. I think for the most part most of the posters were civil. With the exception of a few times.

Regardless, good work moderating.