Why Can't Johhny Read? (in WI) - Page 6 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Skid Row Joe · #76 02-22-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

We don't like the end product. Is it all the employee? Is it all the raw material? We need to keep pressure on the employee to produce. However, lets also realize that the raw material is pretty crappy too.

Looks like thousands will be fired when they don't report for work.

You can't fire the kids.

Fire the union teachers.

Hire non-union teachers for 1/2 the pay, and 100% better results.

What's your hold-up?

You live in Wisconsin - get the fire stoked.
[2/3 of public school eighth graders cannot read. This sounds good to you?

He!!, I'll move up there and work for 1/2 of what those clowns are being paid in a second!

Did I mention you can't fire the kids that are getting shafted by the union government workers?

What are you waiting for?

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Skid Row Joe · #77 02-22-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

You didn't fix anything, you're a damn liar.

Wrong, chars:

Dept of Education stats indicate:

"Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest."

He wrote the truth!

aklim · #78 02-22-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

A private school based education will ALWAYS trump a public education because of management structure, the education level of the instructors, class size and class priorities.

Could it be that I pay more for a private education and so if my kid doesn't make it, I yank him out or that if I don't think he can make it, I won't spend money like that?

It's like the foreign kids that come to school here and do well. The difficulty of getting here and the cost becomes, in effect, a filter.

JamesDean · #79 02-23-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

We don't like the end product. Is it all the employee? Is it all the raw material? We need to keep pressure on the employee to produce. However, lets also realize that the raw material is pretty crappy too.

This is what I was getting at with my assembly line analogy. Much better than what I had. Thanks.

JamesDean · #80 02-23-2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

We don't like the end product. Is it all the employee? Is it all the raw material? We need to keep pressure on the employee to produce. However, lets also realize that the raw material is pretty crappy too.

a lot of parents don't want to accept problems with their child so they blame it on the teacher.

Johhny got a C on his math test! He's smarter than that! Teacher's fault!

Chas H · #81 02-23-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wrong, chars:

Dept of Education stats indicate:

"Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest."

He wrote the truth!

The asshat that changed my post is a damn liar, and you appear happy to fellate him.

inappropriate name calling

aklim · #82 02-23-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

You can't fire the kids.

Hire non-union teachers for 1/2 the pay, and 100% better results.

2/3 of public school eighth graders cannot read. This sounds good to you?

Did I mention you can't fire the kids that are getting shafted by the union government workers?

What are you waiting for?

Which is a large part of the problem as well. Now why can't we fire the kids again? Make education a privilege and not a prison sentence. After all, that is what it is. Basically, the kid is on a "reverse huber" program. The go home at night and go to huber in the day.

I don't know about 100% better results but I believe the results, when pegged to the money spent will be better since you are paying half as much.

In a sense, yes. Less competition for jobs.

How do you propose to fire the kids? Besides toss them out of school?

Like partly what ails the kids, motivation.

aklim · #83 02-23-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

a lot of parents don't want to accept problems with their child so they blame it on the teacher.

Johhny got a C on his math test! He's smarter than that! Teacher's fault!

Not to say it is totally the kids fault either. It could be the teacher's fault or BOTH.

Skid Row Joe · #84 02-23-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

a lot of parents don't want to accept problems with their child so they blame it on the teacher.

Johhny got a C on his math test! He's smarter than that! Teacher's fault!

Since 2/3 of WI. Johnnys in public schools cannot read in the eighth grade, who cares what his math score is?

trolling

Skid Row Joe · #85 02-23-2011, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Not to say it is totally the kids fault either. It could be the teacher's fault or BOTH.

Fire the kid!

Where's he going to be schooled next? Indiana?

Skid Row Joe · #86 02-23-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

The asshat that changed my post is a damn liar,

Alert the media!

aklim · #87 02-23-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Fire the kid!

Where's he going to be schooled next? Indiana?

You mean like in kollege where you do poorly for 2 or 3 semesters and your edumakashun kareer is done there?

Skid Row Joe · #88 02-23-2011, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

Never said there were no problems with public schools. There are plenty. But public schools are a product of their society. And given the degeneration of that society it's not in the least bit surprising that it's problems overwhelm many schools. I repeat. Schools can teach, they cannot motivate. That is the parents job and if they don't do so they are piss poor excuses for parents, citizens, and general worthwhile human beings.

- Peter.

Not in Wisconsin they cannot teach.

Explain how 2 out of 3 kids in eighth grade in WI public schools cannot read?

Your side isn't working. They need to be replaced by non-union workers that WILL teach..

trolling statements

JamesDean · #89 02-23-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

First things first, deal with this first:

"Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest."

http://nationsreportcard.gov/reading_2009/state_g8.asp

Actually it looks like Wisconsin is with a few handful of states that are at or above the proficient level. Most of the west/southern of WI are below or well below Wisconsin.

In term of money spent per pupil, Wisconsin spends $10,267 per pupil. Which is not too much higher than the surrounding states, Michigan is only 500-700 less per pupil. $9.9k and Ohio is $9.7...

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/27/of-all-states-new-york-schools-spend-most-money-per-pupil/

Chas H · #90 02-23-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Wrong, chars:

Dept of Education stats indicate:

"Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest."

He wrote the truth!

No he didn't. He changed the meaning of my post, which is lying.
But more to the point, here's the national scores which show WI ahead of Texas and CA. But we already knew that from reading your posts and those of 10fords.
http://nationsreportcard.gov/reading_2007/r0005.asp?tab_id=tab2&subtab_id=Tab_1#chart