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Old 05-11-2012, 10:26 PM
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Greenpeace? Nah. Too polite. Rainbow Warrior should have been armed with a Silkworm missile or ten, and its crew issued with Kalashnikovs. Might have made a bit of a difference in New Zealand, 1985.



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Darn, Botnst just reminded of my secret "boss" crush who is vegan and into that sort of environment/animal welfare thing. She gave me a vegan brochure published by PETA many months back because I told her I was interested in trying out a vegetarian-vegan diet. Maybe I should have signed up with GP to show her I'm hardcore too Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe I'll ask her for her opinion of GP.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:40 PM
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Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe I'll ask her for her opinion of DP.
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Darn, Botnst just reminded of my secret "boss" crush who is vegan and into that sort of environment/animal welfare thing. She gave me a vegan brochure published by PETA many months back because I told her I was interested in trying out a vegetarian-vegan diet. Maybe I should have signed up with GP to show her I'm hardcore too Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe I'll ask her for her opinion of GP.
If you're both single, ask her for drinks after work and THEN ask for her opinion of Greenpeace. She's just a co-worker, not your sister or cousin. What are you waiting for? Go.

Jobs are replaceable. Crushes unacted upon may not be, and there's no reason to keep this sort of thing a secret to your f**king grave.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:58 PM
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If you're both single, ask her for drinks after work and THEN ask for her opinion of Greenpeace. She's just a co-worker, not your sister or cousin. What are you waiting for? Go.

Jobs are replaceable. Crushes unacted upon may not be, and there's no reason to keep this sort of thing a secret to your f**king grave.
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If you're both single, ask her for drinks after work and THEN ask for her opinion of Greenpeace. She's just a co-worker, not your sister or cousin. What are you waiting for? Go.

Jobs are replaceable. Crushes unacted upon may not be, and there's no reason to keep this sort of thing a secret to your f**king grave.
Sure, in this economy, jobs are a dime a dozen (certain jobs maybe). And of course the boss is stupid enough to risk a sexual harassment suit for you and while we are at it, the company is going to be waiting for you to "**** or get off the pot".

Cousin in some places is ok and I'm good with sister. At least you have 1 less set of in laws to deal with.
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Sure, in this economy, jobs are a dime a dozen (certain jobs maybe). And of course the boss is stupid enough to risk a sexual harassment suit for you and while we are at it, the company is going to be waiting for you to "**** or get off the pot".
Last I checked, it's not a crime nor worthy of a lawsuit to go out for a drink with your boss after work. Happens all the time, even in a platonic sense.

If it becomes a friendship and they're both still interested, then he'll have the choice to resign, speak to her, and continue things as a relationship (or not). A professional relationship isn't a life sentence last I checked.

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Last I checked, it's not a crime nor worthy of a lawsuit to go out for a drink with your boss after work.
Crime, no. Risky, yes. I wouldn't be stupid enough to date an employee. If it doesn't work out and she goes away, fine. If she screams "sexual harassment", my goose is cooked. If other employees see us dating, they too could scream that because of our relationship she gets preferred treatment. Sorry, seen that and learned from that mistake. I ain't that stupid nor do I think it is worth the risk of a suit or to have unhappy employees insinuate things. You go for it in your own company but I put too much blood, sweat and tears in mine to have that happen to mine. I'll sit back and watch someone else go up in smoke.
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^^^

Then the other option is a direct approach: "Jane, I've been interested in getting to know you better for a while ... ... ... I've had offers from other companies and if you feel uncomfortable seeing me outside of work, I'm happy to leave the company for personal reasons."

In other words, what would you do if an employee whom you're interested in also expresses HER interest and offers to resign if it makes you uncomfortable?
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Then the other option is a direct approach: "Jane, I've been interested in getting to know you better for a while ... ... ... I've had offers from other companies and if you feel uncomfortable seeing me outside of work, I'm happy to leave the company for personal reasons."

In other words, what would you do if an employee whom you're interested in also expresses HER interest and offers to resign if it makes you uncomfortable?
Well, if she is going to do that, fine with me. As long as she is an employee, I don't dip my pen in the company ink.
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Well, if she is going to do that, fine with me. As long as she is an employee, I don't dip my pen in the company ink.
Grabbing a drink or having lunch with somebody doesn't qualify as dipping your pen in anything. If it moves beyond that, then one of the people has a choice to resign.

People go places outside of work all the time without immediately jumping into the sack together. Or are you suggesting that I immediately boinked anyone whom I went out for drinks with?
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In my experience, office romances rarely end well and equally for both parties. Eventually one (or both) become so uncomfortable that one (or both) leave. Essentially retarding the professional life of one or both. Or as a colleague opined, "Don't shyte in your nest."

It reality, there is more available companionship than there ever has been. Look outside of your nest.

Back in the 1990's my boss was an attractive, bright woman. She was single and Imo an easy target. I didn't and never looked back: My career and family were worth more to me than that. I hope that had I been single that my behavior would have been no different. Anyway, that's by current delusion.
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Back in the 1990's my boss was an attractive, bright woman. She was single and Imo an easy target. I didn't and never looked back: My career and family were worth more to me than that. I hope that had I been single that my behavior would have been no different. Anyway, that's by current delusion.
If you were single -- was that one job really so irreplaceable that you couldn't have resigned and dated her? Why should a job be worth more than a companion in the grand scheme of life? Unless you're head of surgery at Sloan-Kettering or President of a nuclear power, talk about priorities and conceit here...

Anyway, my point wasn't to date the lady at work. My point was that he shouldn't be afraid of attempting to get to know her better. Not dating at work: resigning before any "dating" happens is an option.

All this assumes 6+ months of reserves in the bank, what any sane person over the age of 25 should have. You spend 1/3 of your waking life at work, and hopefully meet some interesting, bright people. Why not use the situation to full advantage?

PS - Michelle was Mr. O's boss at Sidley Austin.

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My apologies for lack of clarity.

I like some aspects of Greenpeace but I parted ways with them over their earlier incarnation that promoted vandalism and their later incarnation that is increasingly intolerant of wise use conservation.
"The so-called "Wise Use" movement is an industry-front and anti-environmentalist organization founded by Ron Arnold in the late 1980s, primarily dealing with timber and mining issues in the western US."

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interesting choice of words. accidental? not so much?
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If you were single -- was that one job really so irreplaceable that you couldn't have resigned and dated her? Why should a job be worth more than a companion in the grand scheme of life?....
I love what I do in my job more than I love pursuing some random orgasm.

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