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- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth

I left the shop early around 2:00 and came back around 3:30 to catch my daughter at the apartment. She was bringing my window AC back. I guess that call from my off duty police friend did the job.

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A good post and reflects the general truth with addictions. We all like to have a good time from time to time. For my generation it was booze in responsible quantities usually.

I have always found it strange that even though people have seen what illegal drug use and what other things can do. It is not pretty to watch. They still can get involved with them. This too me is not logical and reflects other issues present before the start..

The no remorse for their actions at all or any aparent functioning of a concience any more seems to be the principal target areas for addictive substances. .It truly becomes all about me to the extreme.

Years ago a friend asked me to stop by a alcoholics aa group for a short time with him for moral support as he had quit. They asked me to stand up as I was a new face. Stupidly rather than saying I was just visiting with a friend. I knew it was stupid as I spoke the words that I really did not have a drinking problem.

Some people can have the worse upbringing and get by it in life. Another child from the same family may dwell on it and blame it for their own failure in life. There is little consistancy even between siblings.

I have always thought the majority of kids from my generation growing up where from average working class families that just got by. Since this was tha average norm of the times we did not feel underprivliged, resentful or whatever.. We just grew up and became more self reliant than an average child would today.

Reflecting on it today it was actually better than having most things just handed to you as we pretty well do with our kids today. I just hope this is not the causative factor behind society owes me I see as well all too often with some younger people.

Drugs has always been a problem, there is not a single generation that was not effected by it. Maybe pre internet generations kept the problem in doors, neighbors would just whisper...now it's all in the open.

I come from a city that had a huge drug/heroine problem in the 80's, foreign junkies not used to the strength of the heroin so close to the harbor would die left and right. Many of the local junkies were in there fifties/sixties; started to shoot up in the sixties or even fifties.

Over the years I have lost many friends because of drugs: Amsterdam and La Jolla CA, one of the richest neighborhoods in the country. The only good thing about drugs is that it doesn't know class, everyone is equal.

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well, the 12 step people have a saying/joke:

"an alcoholic will steal your money.

a drug addict will steal your money,... and then help you "look" for it."

i think the idea being that drug addicts have a desire to "get over" on people.

maybe a (not so) passive/aggressive thing?

on the other hand, most junkies and addicts i have known have endured a great deal of trauma/abuse etc., and are often PTSD poster children. some are just really sensitive - can't deal with the everyday troubles of the world. but, yes, it's hard to be patient and supportive of them over time. a woman i loved/ still love has been doing the dance with heroin for the five years i have known her. i have removed myself from her situation several times, just for my own sanity/self preservation.

my condolences to clk man. must be hard to see your own flesh and blood acting in this way.

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Sorry, don't buy it, an addict is an addict, looking out only for themselves and their next fix. (I was on that door step for a while, no trauma, no abuse)

Sadly, Clk has a close family member that needs professional help.

Read, incarceration. Short term remediation isn't going to solve this.

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what exactly are you proposing? some sort of "tough love" / intervention scenario?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Read: TREATMENT. Jail time is likely to have her meet more addicts, and drugs are available in jail -- good way to make her issues worse.

the old lenny bruce line comes to mind:

you arrest a guy for c*&*sucking,... and punish him by sending him to jail?

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

If she's clean and not taking the BP meds put that along with some mental issues, and you probably start to see light at the end of the tunnel. Mania will drive people to extremes and beyond, just like drug addiction.