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Old 06-21-2012, 08:10 PM
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I agree with Barry. In practical terms they are not really prosecute-able, but if the local police or sheriff office has an officer assigned to pawnshop monitoring, they may be able to assist in getting it back. Even the best yards aren't enthusiastic about the prospect of an officer taking a walk through the back lot, running VINs.

In terms of your daughter, I am sorry to say but you now have to treat her as a hostile individual until such time as she takes serious action on her problems. And if she is still functioning at the level you describe, this may be an agonizingly long time away.

My father was an alcoholic, and I have dealt with people like this in other settings, and their ability to manipulate, lie and deceive other people who are operating at a normal state of mind is really frightening.

I am going through some difficult stuff right now, reaping the results of previous mistakes and general stupidity, but I can't touch what you are experiencing. Godspeed to you.
After what happened yesterday, my wife is finally on board with what I am trying to do. The local police have been notified and will be on alert to what she is doing. What the wife and I can't understand, is that we raised her to be a good person and not to steal and cheat people.

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After what happened yesterday, my wife is finally on board with what I am trying to do. The local police have been notified and will be on alert to what she is doing. What the wife and I can't understand, is that we raised her to be a good person and not to steal and cheat people.
Is she an addict? If so, of course she'll cheat.
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Is she an addict? If so, of course she'll cheat.
Young man, if I didn't know better, I would think that you cared about me and my family. Surely that isn't true.
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Young man, if I didn't know better, I would think that you cared about me and my family. Surely that isn't true.
What he asked is a legitimate question. Addicts will go to any lentgth to get a fix. That includes lying, cheating, stealing. It's the drugs doing most the talking
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:18 PM
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What he asked is a legitimate question. Addicts will go to any lentgth to get a fix. That includes lying, cheating, stealing. It's the drugs doing most the talking
SS had her tested a month ago and she tested clean. That's what is confusing the wife and I.
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SS had her tested a month ago and she tested clean. That's what is confusing the wife and I.
There are ways around it...put 2 and 2 together here. Pen bodies and glass tubes missing, torches missing, money scrapped...
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What he asked is a legitimate question. Addicts will go to any lentgth to get a fix. That includes lying, cheating, stealing. It's the drugs doing most the talking
Possibly an addict, and per CLKMan/her dad, an untreated bi-polar. Even with just the second half of that unholy combo, you've got a person who is making choices (not taking meds) that make her incapable of making rational choices... like choosing to not take her meds.

Darling Wife was previously married to a very nice man with very severe bi-polar disorder. She hit a point where she realized she would always love him but could never live with him.... he ain't a bad person, but he is broken.

I suspect the same is true of your daughter, C'man. Best of luck, follow your gut, and don't doubt yourself or your own darling wife - the broke inside her isn't something you did.
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There are ways around it...put 2 and 2 together here. Pen bodies and glass tubes missing, torches missing, money scrapped...
Oh I know what's going on. I just have to out think her. If I have her arrested now, she will just have the excuse that her Father wanted rid of her and called the Police. I'm think for the long haul, say 10-15 years from now.
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Just trying to help.

I'm a professional, but am only operating on what I've read. Perhaps the internet isn't the best venue to share such information. Good luck to you!
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Just trying to help.

I'm a professional, but am only operating on what I've read. Perhaps the internet isn't the best venue to share such information. Good luck to you!
I already know what I am going to do in this situation, I just wanted to know what everyone here thought about it.
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I finally got her out of the apartment. Then I noticed that the window AC is missing. I am calling the police right now.
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Thank you Sir. BTW I am having Broccoli with Cheese for supper.
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Best of circumstances in a difficult time and situation clk man. Since every situation is somewhat different or the circumtances are it is impossible to really totally understand unless you are there and involved.

It has to be extremely difficult watching one of our children go totally off the rails. A lot of parents have minor problems with their children to contend with in comparison. But at the time they seem large. Exercising some perspective at those times can help them define serious to almost neglishable problems.

Watching the effects of drugs on individuals. I only wish that we had actually had a real war on drugs. I have heard all kinds of excuses why we did not.

I care too much for people to really understand why we did not. What a waste of life comes to mind for so many addicts. The only thing it all proves to me is that we can be our own worse enemies quite easily.

Hopefully for your family there might eventually be better times ahead. The old expression that rock bottom has to be hit sometimes by a troubled individual first is a possibility. This sounds like it is getting closer if not present now. Your thread may have been a wake up call for some parents to watch their children a little closer. If so it has been more than worthwhile. No family gets a blanket excemption from potential problems.
Yep... this morning when I notice that the window AC unit is missing that was the final straw. The police have been called.
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What the wife and I can't understand, is that we raised her to be a good person and not to steal and cheat people.
From my experience:

Some people can have the best of upbringings and simply turn out wrong. It happens. It is no reflection on you, your wife or family, or anything you have done. It is VERY important you have this clear in your mind. If you are able, I strongly suggest you hook into whatever local support group(s) exist for families of addicts. You sound really strong now but as time goes by this will start to eat you from the inside. If no support group is near, I would consider trying to find a counsellor or health practitioner of some kind who deals with addicts, who you can sit down with for an hour and get the lowdown on what to expect and what you can do.

As a general observation, you are no longer dealing with your daughter. You are dealing with a person whose brain is progressively being rewired by the addiction. This happens with any substance problem, alcohol included, but Meth and Crack are really frightening in terms of how fast people can completely deteriorate and become shells of their former selves.

I see this process as the mental equivalent of flesh eating disease. The disease takes over and will fight any attempt to thwart or defeat it, however good or sympathetic the intentions.

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