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davidmash · #1 08-17-2012, 12:58 AM

The way I am reading this is that the local election boards made up of two Dems and Two repubs decided what hours the early voting could take place. In case of a tie, Husted (a repub would break the tie) and I bet you know where this is headed.

In counties that typically voted dem Husted voted against extended hours but in counties that typically voted repub he voted for extended hours. He got caught and now he has set uniform hours but the hours are limited. No weekend voting which is thought will hurt dem turn out. I know republicans want to say they are going to win on merit ..... but just in case.... we are going to try and stack the deck.

Elections chief sets uniform voting hours for Ohio

Can't Know · #2 08-17-2012, 01:43 AM

Is Ohio one of those all-er-nuttin electoral states like where I am? In that case it don't much matter when the polls are open.

Heck, that's the beauty of Californey, I already voted for Barry and the election's almost 3 months away. Saves a lot of time, that Ol' 'Lect'ral College.

davidmash · #3 08-17-2012, 01:54 AM

Not sure I follow your reasoning? The hours of poll operation affect the number of people who can vote. If it's a close election those votes could make the difference could they not?

Can't Know · #4 08-17-2012, 03:35 AM

Popular vote doesn't elect the president, the electoral college does.

Weird polling rules, including hours, would affect other races and issues, but not the highest elected office.

t walgamuth · #5 08-17-2012, 05:19 AM

Oh no, you are wrong on that. If it didn't matter they wouldn't bother monkeying around with the hours now would they?

hill · #6 08-17-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Oh no, you are wrong on that. If it didn't matter they wouldn't bother monkeying around with the hours now would they?

They also wouldn't start asking for state picture ID shortly before an election. It took me months to get my birth certificate from Napa CA.

When I was born they did not have those dag gum fancy computers.

Can't Know · #7 08-17-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

Oh no, you are wrong on that. If it didn't matter they wouldn't bother monkeying around with the hours now would they?

It *does* matter in some places. It doesn't matter a whit in California, at least for the office of President.

t walgamuth · #8 08-17-2012, 02:50 PM

OK, so please explain to me how the electoral college works in California. It is my understanding that if a candidate wins the popular vote in a state the electoral votes go for him.

If a candidate were to get less votes because his voters did not have enough time to vote wouldn't that affect the overall result and therefore the electoral vote?

davidmash · #9 08-17-2012, 03:04 PM

If you are talking about a state where the vote split is 75%/25% then yes you have a point. It would be unlikely that voting hours would affect that out come. In Ohio where the vote was closer Obama 2,933,388 to McCain 2,674,491 the hours of voting could have an affect on the out come.

t walgamuth · #10 08-17-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

If you are talking about a state where the vote split is 75%/25% then yes you have a point. It would be unlikely that voting hours would affect that out come. In Ohio where the vote was closer Obama 2,933,388 to McCain 2,674,491 the hours of voting could have an affect on the out come.

This is my understanding as well.

Air&Road · #11 08-17-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hill

They also wouldn't start asking for state picture ID shortly before an election. It took me months to get my birth certificate from Napa CA.

When I was born they did not have those dag gum fancy computers.

You might be missing the idea of photo ID. It does NOT mean that you are required to have a special voter ID card made. It simply means that you have to show your drivers license or other photo ID to ID yourself to vote.

Such a HORRIBLE requirement. Surely there's nothing else in the world that requires you to show a photo ID.

Benz Fan · #12 08-17-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

You might be missing the idea of photo ID. It does NOT mean that you are required to have a special voter ID card made. It simply means that you have to show your drivers license or other photo ID to ID yourself to vote.

Such a HORRIBLE requirement. Surely there's nothing else in the world that requires you to show a photo ID.

Got to keep those Democrats away from the polls, right Larry? Shows how far the Republican Party has fallen over the years.

elchivito · #13 08-17-2012, 04:04 PM

About 10 verifiable cases of voter impersonation in the whole country in the last 4 elections vs. hundreds of thousands of American voters who may be disenfranchised if they can't get paperwork together in time. This is so obviously voter suppression as to be laughable if it weren't so serious. Republican slime will go to any lengths to swing an election.

davidmash · #14 08-17-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

You might be missing the idea of photo ID. It does NOT mean that you are required to have a special voter ID card made. It simply means that you have to show your drivers license or other photo ID to ID yourself to vote.

Such a HORRIBLE requirement. Surely there's nothing else in the world that requires you to show a photo ID.

And you are missing the point as well. These voter id laws have nothing to do with voter ID fraud. There have been 10 cases of voter ID fraud since 2000. PA has publicly acknowledged that it has no evidence that any voter ID fraud ever took place in PA and they said it is unlikely to happen in Nov with or with out the ID law in place.

The republican lawyers association (I feel dirty even righting those words) published a report which concluded that since 2000 there have only been a little over 300 hundred cases of voter fraud of any type in all elections.

The voter ID laws have nothing to do with voter fraud but more to do with disenfranchising a segment of voters which seem to more likely to vote dem since it's the republicans pushing for these laws.

Just to be clear, voting is a right distinctive from most other actions that require ID which are not rights.

Pooka · #15 08-17-2012, 08:36 PM

The Ohio change in voting hours targets one very specific group: Black voters.

During the last Presidential election black church's sermons were focused on the importance of voting. Not who but why. And after church there was a great surge of Black voters hitting the polls.

So, how do you keep this little thing from taking place again? Shut down Sunday voting, of course.

But if the county usually goes Republican then by all means keep the polls open for as many hours as possible.

It did not take long for the Justice Department to see through this scam, so they started asking questions. Sensing a sure trip to the jailhouse for voter meddling the state of Ohio just decided to restrict voting for everyone.

OK, so it might hurt some Republicans, but if it keeps the 'wrong' kind of voter away from the polls then Ohio is all for it.